Prosecutors won't charge LAPD officers in immigration march melee at MacArthur Park [Updated]
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The Los Angeles County district attorney's office announced today it would not file criminal charges against any LAPD officers for their actions during the 2007 May Day melee at MacArthur Park.
Prosecutors said in a statement that after a lengthy review, there was insufficient evidence to prove any officer violated the law when using force, although some might have used "questionable tactics."
They described the incident as "unfortunate and preventable" but said that the office was "closing our file and will take no further action in this matter."
Last year, Police Chief William J. Bratton said he planned to discipline 11 officers and called for the termination of four others for their roles in the melee in which police were accused of using excessive force to clear immigration rights demonstrators and journalists.
LAPD officers were videotaped wielding batons and shooting rubber bullets in an attempt to disperse a largely peaceful crowd. A scathing internal investigation into the incident blamed poor leadership and overly aggressive tactics by officers in the field.
Earlier this year, the Los Angeles City Council agreed to pay nearly $13 million to people injured or mistreated in the melee.
Under the settlement, the department must submit to court oversight of its crowd-control procedures -- another layer of federal involvement that comes as LAPD leaders are impatient to be free of a longstanding and more onerous monitoring program imposed after the Rampart Division corruption scandal.
[Updated at 12:32 p.m.: Prosecutors reviewed an extensive LAPD investigation into 30 officers that including 7,500 pages of documents.
Prosecutors said that the series of events led to actions by officers against "both violent protesters and nonviolent protesters and media personnel."
"The media had innocently and unwittingly positioned themselves in an area directly in the path of officers attempting to clear the park," the report noted. However, prosecutors noted, "not every push or shove amounts to excessive force We cannot establish that any particular officer's actions were unreasonable or without lawful necessity in light of the tense, uncertain and rapidly evolving circumstances."
Prosecutors added that identity "is a factor which must be proven beyond reasonable doubt."
The LAPD officers union praised the decisions. Union President Paul Weber said the distict attorney's review "sought only truth and justice, and was not influenced by any political agenda."]
-- Richard Winton and Andrew Blankstein
Photo: Police at MacArthur Park during May Day protest in 2007. Credit: Los Angeles Times file.
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the incident would have been preventable if the cowards in this country, the us government official had been doing it's job.this is the most cowardly government in the world(for at least the last 50 years). can anyone dispute that? of course not.
Posted by: ferenc | October 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM
And so the faceless thugs of the LAPD get off scott free as usual. Apparently there isn't enough money to train them adequately, but there's half a million dollars available to decorate their new headquarters with the worst public sculpture I've ever seen.
Posted by: mizzle | October 30, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Not surprised they don't want to hurt the cops feeling. But it is ok for them to shoot and beat people. Way to go L.A.P.D.
Posted by: citizen | October 30, 2009 at 12:37 PM
This doesn't mean that the officers involved will walk away easily. The LAPD has its own discipline system that in many cases doles out financial and career-ending punishments that could (and probably will) exceed that which the state would impose.
Posted by: Doug | October 30, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Wouldn't it be great if this were a surprise? Unfortunately it is yet another example of the LAPD getting away with brutal tactics and going relatively unpunished. I was a journalist covering the event, and there is simply no question that LAPD deliberately and systematically attacked what was a peaceful gathering of (mostly) families and concerned citizens. They had ample time to arrest the handful of troublemakers at the event (the some ones that are at most of these kinds of marches) and decided not to -- instead pushing them back into the crowds and ultimately attacking everyone. What a shame it ends by being brushed off in this manner.
Posted by: Humpty Dumpty | October 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM
I'm sure all their time and efforts are consumed chasing down Roman Polanski. We may have to rethink the old saying "The pen is mightier than the sword".
Posted by: Mike m | October 30, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Thank God! If those people want to review the Constitution, maybe they would understand the "right to peaceful assembley"! The police did their jobs and more power to them. Sometimes it's damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Posted by: Rick | October 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM
So glad I moved away from the WORST police in America. Is anyone surprised by this anymore?
Posted by: Stephen | October 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM
So the LA Times went on a jihad against the LAPD for several years over an incident where no crimes were committed. An incident that was created entirely by illegal aliens. Amplified by bottles and rocks thrown by illegal aliens. You know, people who are breaking the law. People who should be arrested and jailed.
If ever there was a situation that showcases just how parochial and backward the city's press establishment really is, this is it. The underbelly of progressive politics laid bare: moral and ethical bankruptcy.
Posted by: Bruno | October 30, 2009 at 01:01 PM
What was the police department thinking????? The protesters were rallying for a chance to become or be recognized as a citizen of this great country. I'm sure that tension was thick but batons and rubber bullets?????? I respect the position that the officers were in but the the photos were damning. The officers look like the gestapo. I realize that there are always a few bad apples in the bunch but they should have been isolated and removed from the rally. Officers shot rubber bullets into a crowd with children. A rubber bullet can cause a lot of damage to a 6 year old. Try a little understanding because except for Native Americans and some Mexicans we are all immigrants. Think about it.
Posted by: Mactish | October 30, 2009 at 01:06 PM
This is great news!
Posted by: Matt | October 30, 2009 at 01:11 PM
What a great city we live in. These officers caused $13 million dollars in payouts to the protesters and don't even get a slap on their wrist?! If I were to cause just a fraction of damage to my company, I would be fired. I crinch every time the police chief says we have the best police department in the US. What we have is the most expensive one. Remember the Rampart payouts. To the City Council: This is our tax money you are awarding!!!!
Posted by: Alex | October 30, 2009 at 01:11 PM
Why is this not surprising?
Posted by: sireneb | October 30, 2009 at 01:12 PM
Hmmm, just reread the part about identity - maybe officers need their names and numbers on their backs like football players.
Posted by: sireneb | October 30, 2009 at 01:13 PM
Would have been a different outcome if this happened to white protesters.
LAPD has not changed their ways.
Tav
Posted by: Tav | October 30, 2009 at 01:14 PM
Illegal immigrants are always provoking the LAPD officers to hurt/injure them so they can have free money from the government. Best and easy way to win a lotto. In the first place they are all illegals. Being illegal in any country is a crime. They should have been deported at once during the protest. Hope our elected officials have the guts to implement such law.
Posted by: boy | October 30, 2009 at 01:14 PM
How can our own District Attorney, Steve Cooley, condone this type of violence on innocent civilians? I thought we elected this man to seek justice. Let's make sure we don't re-elect him when the time comes.
Posted by: eric | October 30, 2009 at 01:15 PM
Another sad tale of police on a power trip, getting away with it. I am totally Pro law enforcement as we sponsor several local police departments, but it never ceizes to amaze me how they are held ABOVE the law. I've seen the videos, and truly hope karma kicks in... They will get what they deserve eventually...
Posted by: MP | October 30, 2009 at 01:16 PM
Why doesn't this come as a surprise?
Once again, this proves that the people that enforce the rules, do not have to abide by them, or common sense, for that matter.
It's called 'limited immunity'. Look it up.
Question Authority People! No one is above the law.
There should have been some Human Rights violations charges brought up against these Bozo's!
Posted by: Rejoice | October 30, 2009 at 01:19 PM
"The Los Angeles County district attorney's office announced today it would not file criminal charges against any LAPD officers for their actions during the 2007 May Day melee at MacArthur Park."
....."Earlier this year, the Los Angeles City Council agreed to pay nearly $13 million to people injured or mistreated in the melee."
One more bailout- the taxpayer foots the bill but no one in the LAPD is held accountable. Journalists wearing professional identification were beaten & dragged and have successfully sued the LAPD. Several of these incidents were photographed and videotaped, identifying specific officers, and surely thereby, also providing a concrete opportunity to look at the chain of command authorization of those policies on that day.
Posted by: Margaret Molloy | October 30, 2009 at 01:20 PM
although some might have used "questionable tactics."
That's there way of saying justice is blind.
Posted by: thetruth | October 30, 2009 at 01:20 PM
Suprise, suprise! (SILENCE)...(MORE SILENCE)
(CRICKETS CHIRPING)
Posted by: Protect and Serve | October 30, 2009 at 01:22 PM
they pay $13 million to the mistreated, yet prosecuters wont charge!? sounds like pure Bull...
Posted by: Bryan | October 30, 2009 at 01:25 PM
I love L.A. but I hate the way our police officers are allowed to use violence and then get off scott free. Whether it's shooting a child (and then getting a high-five from Tru) or using rubber bullets and batons on protestors, it is deplorable. I am ashamed of the LAPD.
Posted by: Disgusted | October 30, 2009 at 01:30 PM
I'm sorry but I have to say, when a Police Officer in Riot gear asks you to leave the area...IT IS NOT A DEBATE!
By disobeying them, you are not just endangering your life, but the officers lives as well.
Unacceptable.
And PLEASE, do not tell me the "Media" didn't know exactly what they were doing, which was getting in the way AND hoping for sparks. They have eyes, they knew what was happing and they wanted to be "part" of the story.
In fact I believe the city has done MORE than what is truly necessary (about 13 million too much), so, in my mind, case closed.
Posted by: Toby | October 30, 2009 at 01:33 PM
Is anyone really surprised? or did you real expect to receive JUSTICE. Doesn't the timing of it all seem co-incidental, the Cheif leaves the COPS get off. Welcome to the "City Of god" or is it "A Temple of Thieves".
Posted by: MdW | October 30, 2009 at 01:35 PM
Richard and Andrew thanks for the story.
I am not surprised by this decision, the District Attorneys Office is gutless group of politician wanna-bees. The Police Chief Bratton and his department and the Police Union are corrupt.
And we wounder why people join gangs for protection.
And Tax Payers are out $13 million dollars in settlements. Lets not forget the cost to the tax payers of overtime to investigate this matter by both departments, I would like to know that cost!
Regards
Doug Wallick
Posted by: doug wallick | October 30, 2009 at 01:52 PM
"The media had innocently and unwittingly positioned themselves in an area directly in the path of officers attempting to clear the park" and then refused to move when directed by the officers. Some media knelt or sat on the ground in front of the officers in a direct provocation.
The original choice of location might have been innocent, but the refusal to move as directed by an officer and kneeling in the officers path was not innocent or unwitting.
Posted by: bkl | October 30, 2009 at 02:04 PM
Of course no officers were charged. GEE!!! What a surprise. The DA's Office Under Carmine Trutanich (a good o'l boy if there ever was one) wouldn't dare take a stand and file criminal complaints against the officers who beat innocent bystanders, reporters, even women with baby carriages.
It's just politics as usual at City Hall.
Posted by: Esquinch. | October 30, 2009 at 02:05 PM
So uh, beating the members of the Press is "questionable tactics".
And women with children in their arms were considered a threat in a highly evolving and dangerous situation that they didn't even know about until the cops came in firing rubber bullets at them.
Yeah.
"not every push or shove amounts to excessive force" - I can see every wife beater in town using that excuse now.
Posted by: chicka | October 30, 2009 at 02:17 PM
$13 million for 250 injured? That's $52,000 each and frankly is Bolshoi.
Sorry, but MacArthur Park has long been known as a hangout for troublemakers. According to Wikipedia, "MacArthur Park became known for violence after 1985 when drug-dealing, shoot-outs and the occasional rumored drowning became commonplace, with as many as 30 murders in 1990. It also became infamous for the sale of fake identification cards. When the lake was drained in 1973 and 1978 hundreds of handguns and other firearms were found to have been disposed of in the lake.
In 2001, a couple members of the notorious 18 Street gang had a shootout with rival their rivals, the MS 13. A 18 Street clique known as MacArthur Park clique got into an argument with members of MS 13 which eventually led to a shootout. There were 2 injuries and 3 deaths.
On May Day May 1, 2007, a rally calling for U.S. citizenship for illegal immigrants took place in MacArthur Park. The incident has been dubbed the May Day Mêlée.
In the evening, eight protesters (from a band of anarchists who regularly congregate at the park) began throwing rocks and bottles at officers, leading police commanders to declare the gathering an unlawful assembly and give the order to disperse.
The police then cleared the park, using what some thought was excessive force against those who disobeyed the order.
Posted by: What's missing from the Times... | October 30, 2009 at 02:18 PM
Prosecutors added that identity "is a factor which must be proven beyond reasonable doubt."
Okay, I grant you that proper identification is necessary to root out the bad officers. So how about this: Put the officer's badge number (large) along one or both sleeves of his uniform. If it can be done on the roof of a Metro bus, it can be done on the sleeves of the LAPD. The question is, how bad do those in power really want to remove the bad officers?
Posted by: BruceFromHB | October 30, 2009 at 02:19 PM
outrageous waste of time and money to look into what anybody except members of the anarchist/justicia/gripers knew all along: the jerks brought this on themselves and the not-so-bright media abetted them
Posted by: 2 cents | October 30, 2009 at 02:20 PM
Prosecutors said in a statement that after a lengthy review, there was insufficient evidence to prove any officer violated the law when using force:
Then why did the city pay nearly $13 million to people injured or mistreated in the melee. Why is the department going to discipline 11 officers and call for the termination of four others for their roles in the melee in which police were accused of using excessive force...Why, Because the cops are above the law. Personally I believe that immigration laws need to be enforced and the illegals need to be sent home...but having been a victim of police brutality, I know that most cops are liars, and the system protects them.
Posted by: Katriel | October 30, 2009 at 02:26 PM
Is this the same district attorneys office that is trying to arrest medical marijuana patients and the despensary owners?
So I understand THE message.
Police brutality = OK
Medical Marijuana = BAD
Great message L.A .D.A
Posted by: Smokey Da Weedy | October 30, 2009 at 02:32 PM
The officer pointing a shotgun appears clearly identifiable beyond a reasonable doubt.
The fact that 11 officers were disciplined, 4 were terminated and $13 million in settlements were awarded indicates serious violations of law.
The peaceful citizens of this city have paid very significant sums of money and blood because of the illegal actions of the LAPD.
Every officer, especially the leadership, must understand that they serve us. They do not rule over us. This decision by the D.A. does not send that message.
Posted by: aw | October 30, 2009 at 02:50 PM
This is smoke/mirror 101 !!!!! How is it law enforcement is able to use video/audio or other technologies to determine criminal activity (or who did what to whom), yet according to your report - they are not able to determine who hit whom, or who ran over whom...........YET THE CITY AGREED TO PAY THE PLANTIFFS A NICE BOUNTY??????So, I guess...once again, the city, the citizens, taxpayers take it on the chin because they allow those who beat the hell out of people to be defined with insufficient evidence
Posted by: fredyt | October 30, 2009 at 02:56 PM
Come-on people did you actual think that there would be repercussions for the actions of those officers, co-incidental, I mean the timing and everything the Cheif leaving and the announcement of no prosecution of the officers. Once again "The City of Angels" or is it "A den of Theives". They are not called the (Untouchables for nothing).
Posted by: MdW | October 30, 2009 at 02:59 PM
Perfect. Great decision. And by the way, that's the way it should be. Bratton did some good things for this agency, but one of the things he screwed up on and in the process revealed that he is not and has never been a true LAPD officer, is when he saw an opportunity to throw his own guys under the bus to curry favor with the illegal aliens.
Posted by: Crazy Horse | October 30, 2009 at 03:03 PM
Hmmm... Next thing they will be able to shoot into crowds with live amunition and get away with it. Watch COPS lately? Yeah pretty much every clip the person getting arrested is doing something illegal (would probably be boring otherwise), but how many people get pulled over or how many non-motorized bicycles are getting stopped before they pop someone with something. Officers tactics are getting a way bit excessive I think.
Posted by: Passposter | October 30, 2009 at 03:05 PM
the city of la officials are the dumbest peiple on earth. attention lapd: when criminals, illegals, gangsters, anarchist or other scum, march, burn, riot, stay out of it. actually, all policemen quit your jobs and let the politicians and lawyers police your city. amen.
Posted by: ferenc | October 30, 2009 at 03:12 PM
We work with court case for people like this. Continue to file the cause and lets try to move the DA's to MacArthur Park. Let them live in the world they created. It should be mandatory for cops and lawyers to live with those they abuse.
Posted by: thegardensinc | October 30, 2009 at 03:15 PM
Wow!
What a surprise.
Posted by: John | October 30, 2009 at 03:17 PM
When we see this kind of stuff on TV happening in other countries our politicians are quick to condemn their actions. When it happens in our own country they ignore it.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 30, 2009 at 03:26 PM
I cant wait to join the LAPD, I get to beat the crap out of them innocent people and few bad guys and also get high pay and received great benefits also.
Score 1 for the LAPD...........
Posted by: Village Idiot | October 30, 2009 at 03:27 PM
Justice is still alive and well in Los Angeles. When non-citizens and their sympathizers act out, they need to be contained and dispersed. Politics should never bind the hands of those who keep the peace.
Posted by: DonaldH | October 30, 2009 at 03:29 PM
When the police say disperse - disperse. And learn some English while you're at it. (Maybe they weren't able to translate "disperse".) You've had your fun, made your point, now go home. This is why I don't get involved in "demonstrations" and all of their associated chaos. I'm relaxing in my living room, watching these fools on tv. The so-called "demonstrators", particulary those here illegally, got what they deserved. LAPD was just doing its job maintaining order. They are the thin blue line between anarchy and a civilized society.
Posted by: Mark | October 30, 2009 at 03:31 PM
This does not surprise me at all. They are Police Officers who never do anything wrong. Yeah right! It is all a punch of you know what. They are allowed to do what ever they want, shoot or beat someone and that's ok . I am so sick of this!
Posted by: Cheryl | October 30, 2009 at 03:49 PM
Do what you're told and when you're told to do it. There are 3 million other people in this city and it is the Police Dept's job to see to it that their safety is secure. Now from what I remember and what anyone can look up on youtube.com, there was nothing constructive coming out of the mouths of these ungrateful squatters. Only disrespectful and racial insults being hurled at the officers. Job well done by all Officers and the Jury
Posted by: Kris H | October 30, 2009 at 04:04 PM
First, I need to point out that I am normally a huge supporter of the LAPD.
In this case, I am shocked and greatly disappointed in the DA's decision not to charge the officers involved in the 2007 MacArthur Park melee. Forget about the private citizens who were beaten - it's possible to argue that they could have and should have obeyed the order to disperse. What about the journalists, the TV reporters, the cameramen, all of whom were beaten by the LAPD, and the media tents that were torn down?
Those incidents alone warrant a prosecution and state prison time for the officers who were responsible - the media had legal rights to cover news events, even after the general public has been ordered to disperse(this is because of a civil lawsuit settled in 2000 after journalists were beaten during the Democratic Convention).
Posted by: MarlaG | October 30, 2009 at 04:07 PM
so all the video and the pics of the event are not enough proof? the people that got messed up and fired upon and got battered around should get up on these peoples face!
oh wait its october 30th, bratton leaves office tomorrow. of course! its a way to broom this under the carpet. basically it NEVA HAPPENED! this is an outrage. there is no justice for these people.
Posted by: tronn | October 30, 2009 at 04:26 PM
"What's missing" is missing more than a few points of logic.
It's laughable that he attempts to mislead and distract us with quotations from Wikipedia about irrelevant and anachronistic events. Most high school students know better than to do that.
But it's a serious and dangerous proposition to claim that the actions of large squads of riot police that day were caused by a few persons alleged to have thrown rocks. That he is making a classic begging-the-argument is obvious if you ask yourself this: How could anyone throw rocks at riot police unless said police were present prior?
The logical flaws are less important than the very real damage to the state of peace and justice that such faulty logic can cause. Remember Kristallnacht and McCarthyism? If not, then learn.
Think critically and live in dignity. Question those who would deny anyone their human rights.
That's what is really missing from the arguments of "What's missing" and others who would have us believe that authoritarianism is defensible.
Posted by: aw | October 30, 2009 at 04:51 PM
FOR ALL THOSE WHO THINK IMMIGRANTS HAVE NO RIGHTS:
REMEMBER, IF YOU ARE NOT AN INDIAN AMERICAN, YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT, TOO. AND YOUR GRAN...GRANFATHER WAS MOST PROBABLY A CRIMINAL, AN INDIAN MURDERER. SO, DON'T FORGET: AMERICA IS A COUNTRY OF IMMIGRANTS. DON'T FOUL YOURSELF. YOU ARE NOT ANY SPECIAL IF YOU WERE BORN HERE.
Posted by: MARIA | October 30, 2009 at 05:00 PM
What do you expect the cops to do? When a cop tells me to move, I move. When a cop tells me to leave, I leave. But then again, if I was to ever see a bunch of cops moving in my direction I would leave before being told to do so. Especially if I had my kids with me!
The ironic thing is the folks protesting originate mostly from Mexico, Central or South American. Have you ever been to a protest in any of those countries? Do you think there would be a hearing or any payment to folks who refused to listen and got hurt? Heck no!
Put yourself in the cops place. These days in protests they get shot at, pelted with bottles and spit at. If you want to protest than do so. But once the police show up peacefully disperse.
Posted by: CT | October 30, 2009 at 05:09 PM
Police in L.A. can do whatever they want, to whomever they want, whenever they want. There will be no serious repercussions and at worst some will be "fired" then get their jobs back a few months later with full back-pay once the smoke clears.
The sooner you understand this, the sooner everything will be OK. Nothing to see here, move along.
Posted by: Bobby | October 30, 2009 at 05:17 PM
You all are missing the point. The officers did not get off without dicipline: 11 were suspended, and 4 were terminated. The DA chose not to bring criminal charges against the officers. We can't expect to hold our officers 100% personally liable for their actions while on duty. They hurt some people, they didn't kill anybody. I don't want the men & women of the LAPD to be afraid of going to jail for doing their jobs. We need them to protect us. I'm not condoning their crowd control methods, but we need to give our police the ability to make those types of decisions or else next time the demonstration will turn violent and our LAPD won't have the power to stop it.
Posted by: Turbo T | October 30, 2009 at 05:26 PM
so the thugs from the biggest gang in american commit violent crimes once again and get away with it...once again
yay for spineless prosecutors!!!
hopefully, LAPD will pull one of you over one night and shoot you with rubber bullets
would one of you spineless puppets press charges then???
Posted by: anon | October 30, 2009 at 09:32 PM
It is interesting that so many people who have commented have written as if they were there. Many of the posts are simply wrong.
Here are a few simple facts that might help you better understand the chain of events. First, the order to disperse came after most of the park was sealed off, so it was extremely difficult to leave the park once the order was given. Second, keep in mind that the mach had ended and a rally was happening in front of a stage that had no clear line of sight to the direction of where the officers were storming the park, so most people did not see or hear the mess until it was right in front of them. Third, no rocks were thrown. Plastic water bottles, yes. Rocks NO. It simply isn't true. There was a kid at the end of the march who stepped off a curb to pick up his hat. The police pushed back and there was a scuffle. Arrests should have happened at that moment if at all, but instead the police took a very aggressive stance and slowly provoked a small portion of the overall crowd, which was entirely made of teenage kids and very easy to provoke (after several minutes of this a plastic bottle or two was thrown...no more than that). They ultimately pushed the kids back into the park and then sealed it from both sides. I was on the south side of the park and didn't get caught in the middle of the mess, but if I had been on the north side watching the rally, I seriously doubt I would have seen either the scuffle or the police raid that followed until it was right on top of me.
The people who were there were not all illegal immigrants. Were some illegal? Sure, probably. BUT, most were people like me. People who want to see humane policies for all people, regardless of where they were born or what they look like. There were families, children, elderly...working men and women who came together to voice their concerns. The LAPD made it into an ugly scene, and this is a shameful way to end the story. We all deserve better than this.
Posted by: Matt | October 30, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Of course they walked away. Kinda like why even investigate.
They walked away after Rodney King. This was 'merely' some uniformed bully pushing a "dangerous" female reporter to the ground with a baton.
Posted by: dfds | October 31, 2009 at 02:10 AM
Order to disperse was given. IT MEANS DISPERSE! It doesn't mean everyone do what they want to do. Either way why are you hating the LAPD? The only reason...and I emphasize ONLY reason this was made an issue is because members of the MEDIA not the PUBLIC were injured. Heaven forbid the MEDIA be told to do anything and listen or be held accountable for anything. Its a joke...if no member of the media sustain injuries during this there would have been no story!
Posted by: LAPD strong hold | October 31, 2009 at 08:44 AM
The Officers shouldnt be charged. Anyone with common sense should have that gut feeling that if something were to go 'sideways' and there are Police Officers in large numbers at the ready, even the so called innocent just might get in the way. It's up to each individual to move their ass, protect themselves, and get out of the way. Take responsibility for yourself, for once. The media wants to get the best photo-op, well have a 3-D view of this batton then....
Posted by: Ofcr. Jim Reed | October 31, 2009 at 08:55 AM
This is the only country in the world where illegal aliens can conduct an unruly rally, throw rocks and bottles at the police who were attempting to restore order, get pushed onto the grass and then collect a healthy settlement from the city...I guess it better than picking cabbage...
Posted by: TheBigPicture | October 31, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Termination and prison is the ONLY punishment for their abuse of authority...
Posted by: Mr.G... | October 31, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Really!!!
Why does that NOT surprise...
The L.A.P.D. is just as corrupt as the police down in Mexico...
Posted by: Mr.G... | October 31, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Like I said over a year ago...nobody will face criminal charges. The corruption is completed. And for the record, if anyone legally kills the cop pointing the "assault weapon" in the lead story today, whose face is clearly seen for identification purposes, there is a large cash reward waiting for them at the website listed above.
Remember, justice is blind. But not that blind!
KC
Posted by: ANOTHER CROOKED COP | October 31, 2009 at 02:23 PM
Thank you, Matt, for setting the record straight. The park was sealed, and THEN the riot police charged. How could anyone "disperse" if the exits were blocked? The police created a dangerous situation and brutalized hundreds of people.
The police have flawed "crowd control" policies that cause over-reaction and illegal police behavior. They did it in 1999 at Venice beach, they did it in 2000 at the convention downtown, and they did it in 2007 at MacArthur Park. That is why they are now under another consent decree with federal monitoring.
Such actions by the police indicate that, despite the pacifying words from the leadership, they are recalcitrant in their refusal to allow expression of political speech and freedom of assembly. It indicates that they are contemptuous of the public.
It is truly a shame because it demeans the good service of other officers in the department. The department deserves better, and so does the city.
Posted by: aw | October 31, 2009 at 02:56 PM
can we get the 13 million dollars back from so call damages done by the lapd ?
Posted by: crooks and liars | October 31, 2009 at 11:54 PM
"And so the faceless thugs of the LAPD get off scott free as usual. Apparently there isn't enough money to train them adequately, but there's half a million dollars available to decorate their new headquarters with the worst public sculpture I've ever seen."
The faceless thugs were in the crowd.
"So the LA Times went on a jihad against the LAPD for several years over an incident where no crimes were committed. An incident that was created entirely by illegal aliens. Amplified by bottles and rocks thrown by illegal aliens. You know, people who are breaking the law. People who should be arrested and jailed."
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The nightmare continues with Congress demanding they be amnestied. And those same people are very busy playing pick-up-sticks with our health care and national economy. Is it safe to say the Congress has a really bad reputation and we should put any serious efforts to cure our crumbly nation on the back burner until the next election? Yes it is.
Just say no to the illegal aliens.
Posted by: Joel Wischkaemper | November 02, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Well thank you Maria for clearing that up, except...
1. There are no peoples indigenous to this land,
2. My ancestors came into this country legally, played by the rules,and murdered no one,
3. My birth here on American soil absolutely makes me a native American (illegal criminal aliens substantiate that with their insistance that their spawn born in America are American citizens,
4. This is not a nation of immigrants, it is a nation of Americans. The proof of that is the resistance by Americans that is rising ever higher to the illegal immigration debacle we are suffering.
Did I leave anything out? Oh yes, kudos to the district attorney for making the absolute right decision.
Posted by: melena29 | November 02, 2009 at 12:26 PM
One more thing Maria...citizenship is determined by the status of the parent(s), ergo, unless your spawn are born to legal American citizens, they have no rights here. We will clarify that, make no mistake.
Posted by: melena29 | November 02, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Like I said over a year ago...nobody will face criminal charges. The corruption is completed. And for the record, if anyone legally kills the cop pointing the "assault weapon" in the lead story today, whose face is clearly seen for identification purposes, there is a large cash reward waiting for them at the website listed above.
Remember, justice is blind. But not that blind!
KC
Posted by: ANOTHER CROOKED COP | October 31, 2009 at 02:23 PM
Do you folks actually read what you allow to be posted? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the above post is a call for assasination of a police officer, and you've allowed it to be printed. This should be removed immediately.
Posted by: melena29 | November 02, 2009 at 12:33 PM