Octuplets' mother gets a giant babysitting offer

There appears no shortage of people offering guidance to the Whittier octuplets' mom.

Attorney Gloria Allred lobbed a huge offer to Nadya Suleman on Thursday: round-the-clock nursing care, physical therapy, occupational therapy and a home for the super-sized Whittier family.

Now all Suleman has to do is call and accept the help from Allred and Angels in Waiting, a nonprofit charity founded by Kaiser nurse Linda West Conforti.

"This is something where she can still be a mom," Conforti said. "We’re not trying to rip these children away. We’re trying to give her a support system."

So far, Suleman has not responded to the offer, which was issued last week through her former publicists, her now-defunct website and Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Bellfower, where the octuplets were born on Jan. 26, Conforti said.

Volunteer nurses would help care for the babies in eight-hour shifts, Conforti said. In all, she said it would probably take about 14 trained professionals to provide stability and care for the octuplets while also assisting Suleman with her other special-needs children.

Allred said she filed a complaint on Feb. 12 with the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services requesting an investigation into whether Suleman’s 14 children might be endangered if left in her care and custody. Her complaint also asked that the children be temporarily removed from Suleman’s care if it is warranted.

Although Suleman has reportedly earned money from interviews with U.S. and British tabloids, it is unclear how the single mother plans to support the large family long-term. The small Whittier home she is sharing with her own mother is in pre-foreclosure. Suleman is also not employed, receiving about $490 a month in food stamps, with three of her children receiving federal supplement security income. Sources have said that Kaiser filed for Medi-Cal reimbursement for the octuplets.

The offer from Angels in Waiting would keep the family together without use of taxpayer funds, Allred said.

--Kimi Yoshino

Photo of Gloria Allred in 2002 by Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images

Previously on L.A. Now

House where octuplets' mom lives is in danger of foreclosure

Octuplets' mom identifies her fertility clinic in Beverly Hills

Octuplets story takes surreal turns, including You Tube video

Comments

[Patty]

This has got to be the bravest thing Allred's ever done in her long, storied career.

Only time will tell if it is also the most foolish thing she's done...

[h]

Does the over $300,000 in tabloid money disqualify her for food stamps? Just wondering.

[GeneTierney]

Suleman probably prefers cash or credit cards!

[I need help too!]

I'm tired and have a lot of responsibilities, too. Would Gloria help me out? I could use a housekeeper, a new car, some new clothes. I can barely pay my rent. Groceries are really expensive, too. Thanks, Gloria!

[fzdybel]

Brilliant, and bravo. Now all they have to do is bury a commitment order in the fine print and throw away the key. But unless I miss my guess about what's goin' on with Nadya, some judge is going to wind up signing that one. After all, she just scored $300K for tabloid photos of the young'uns and is probably feeling independent as a hog on ice. The only hope short of that judge is if Nadya's mother Angela has actually, finally removed herself from the child care equation. Remember, this was the little princess who was going to take care of all these kids while she was going to school. "Fullerton has great day care" she cooed. I don't see her as a hands-on kind of mom.

She'll break.

[Cindy]

Ok, we are all mad as hell at Nadya Suleman, fine, I agree with alot it myself. But what's done is done. Nadya has 14 children to raise and it is not their fault there Mom had a temporary lapse in judgment, (remember Bill Clinton had a few of those). Anyway, NadyaMom needs help and so do the kids. So, let's help the kids and if Nadya gets help along the way, fine. Maybe she is raising a future president, or future cyclist or swimmer. She needs help and so do the kids. 'Come on, the kids are adorable.

[molly rambo]

ms. aldridge says out of one side of her face she thinks that these children may be in danger if left in their mothers care, and then this nurse says out of her face that she can still be a mom under their thumb and supervision, sounds like gloria is in it for making more of a name for herself and ultimately get control and book rights to this womans children and their story, this young mother has not shown a great deal of common sense yet,although if she is getting paid for these interviews and other things then she is trying to have money on hand for everything they and her other six children will need, and i agree she needs help and lots of it, some counseling and literally a small army to help her, THIS STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN AND I BELIEVE THAT GLORIA HAS ULTERIOR MOTIVES, this young women definately needs help but not from what appears to be a wolf in sheeps clothing, and if this mother decides to accept any offer like this especially from this woman she needs to insist that cameras be installed so as not to allow stuff to be made up about her. gloria aldredge is very high powered and very wealthy and after all this is IMHO, BUT SOMETHING STINKS HERE AND WHY WOULD SHE TRUST HER, I KNOW I WOULDN'T, WHEN YOU HAVE FILED SUIT ON HER, I HOPE SHE ACCEPTS A LOT OF HELP BUT JUST NOT FROM THIS WOMEN.

[SmplyCmplxCo]

I agree with other comments. Everyone has problems. Do we all get round-the-clock services hand delivered to us? No. We all work hard for our livelihood. She made the decision, with complete knowledge of the implications of her actions, and now she should have to live with it. I'm not saying these children, who had no say in being born to someone selfish enough to bring 14 children into the world without the means to care for them properly, deserve to be punished. The article says they don't want to take away from her being a mother and having her children, when that is exactly what they should do. I'm glad someone is trying to take the burden away from taxpayers, but this demonstration gives individual's all over the world the incentive to make catastrophic mistakes and reap the rewards.

[jillian]

So irresponsibly have 6 or 7 embryos implanted, give birth to a litter, and you get all the help in the world? What gives?

A co-worker of mine is going through h** raising one severely autistic child by herself. It's a constant fight with the school district to get her son the help he needs, her husband bailed 'cos he didn't want to deal with a child that is so explosively angry all the time, so she has to work full time and raise her son. No help from the government, just massive therapy bills she has to pay out of pocket because insurance won't cover it.

My friend has said many times she wanted more children, but couldn't think of bringing another one into this world when dealing with her son's autism takes up all her time and energy.

So Octomom decides to bring more children into this world, even though she has no means of support, two disabled children, including one with autism. It's an outrage!

I think the Octomom should have her children removed, the octuplets should be adopted out in sets of two with the stipulation that all the children remain in contact. Send Octomom and her doctor to jail for welfare fraud.

[gala]

Why should this be left up to Gloria Allred?

Why wouldn't a better judge as to the future quality of life for this family be California Childcare Protective Services?
Why is some talking head TV yenta of a lawyer determining the fate of 14 helpless children left in the care of 3 extremely dubious adults who have shown themselves for the past seven years to not be up to the task?

These babies are the highest priority in this situation.
the question is whether this family can keep them that way.

It seems that Nadya Suleman lives in a reality where she is foremost seen to herself to be ready at all times for her closeup.
She's complaining about being targeted as a celebrity whenever she can't control it (and get paid for it) and gets a paparazzi mike stuck in her face. Meanwhile she is giving exclusives to tabloids. And I am guessing this isn't for free.

Nadya has no credibility and continues to blatantly and compulsively lie with every soundbite and make foolishly spendthrift financial choices with all the "donated" money we've been watching her spend..
What makes Gloria Allred think that anything her intervention does will change that?

The long green is likely being funneled through her mother so Nadya can keep grifting government benefits.
A $500 a week nanny from an agency for the past two years, at least $25,000 in cosmetic surgery, the money to keep that minivan going, charge cards for manicures and cosmetics at Nordstrom and a fast-food diet, now all being paid for by "donation".
And if you don't have a TV, why would you be browsing for a Wii?
And if you don't have an Internet connection, how do you "research" all that infertility stuff she said she did?

All this while having to face a future for 14 children , 10 of them under age 2 . And a grandma who is planning a European vacation. And a granddad who is next to be seen on Oprah.

Meanwhile there are the babies, all 14 helpless to their own fate. And why Gloria Allred thinks that this is the sort of woman who has displayed the kind of judgement where the babies come first so far remains to be seen.

Birthing a litter does not a mother make. it's the nurturing and putting the children first. Something that Allred can't show us has been done here.
I think it really is commendable that Allred is trying to help but this is a woman with issues bad enough two publicists have fled. And they are used to the worst in human behavior as an investment in raw material.

Allred is on thin ice.
What If she gets herself locked into a deal she can't get herself and her charity out of? There are many, many single moms out there right now whose commitment to their kids doesn't come with a freak show list of very expensive extras and a mom lost in her own narcissistic priorities jeopardizing the stability of her family.

-gala1

[G Dani]

I am a single mother of 4 from age 19 to 19months! I know the challenges that mom's in general face let alone single mom's. Many years ago I was a young single mother without any viable support system I had a premature child who I recieved SSI for, I also accepeted food stamps & finanical assistance (all totaling less than $1000 a mo. to cover rent, gas water electric, phone, transportation, clothes, food, diapers & daycare for 4 people) while I went back to college with a 6yo, 3yo & a newborn with special needs to get my degree. Some times we need a hand up not a handout. It's personal belief that it's absolutly INSANE to have 14 babies with no father, real support system or independant wealth! I can't even begin to say how wrong that is on so many different levels. But Ms Allred you have got some pompous audacity to file agaist her with department of children & family services. That is vexacious & obdurate. You do not even KNOW THAT WOMAN. However irresponsible you may feel her actions are you have no right to file against her. Then to offer the facade of help farnkly I wouldn't take jack **** you'd offer either. I think she's smart not to take your self rightous "strings attached" offer. That's plain dirty! You have used your status & legal expertise to threaten/bully a woman who most obviously needs help. You may feel like it's your tax dollars at work she is receiving but remember that it's your tax dollars hard at work in the bank "bailouts" which served no one but the mega rich(Oh, but I guess you weren't negativly affected by that), its your tax dollars hard at work in the BS no child left behind LACK OF education taught in the public school system it is your tax dollars hard at work FINANCING a WAR that the MAJORITY of AMERICA is against. If you want to get on your soap box about something look into how many soilders families are forced on food stamps during their deployment because they are paid below the poverty level. That poor public school education has a direct bearing on cycles of poverty & crime. Do some good for a change. I'm pissed they use my hard earned tax dollars for MANY things I don't like nor agree with. I m not happy knowing that the working poor are suffering with lack of basic nessecties & middle class jobs are being "outsourced" & the mortgage industry has foreclosed on their shot at 'the American dream'. That I work the ER & care for multitudes of people who despite the fact they work full time jobs sometimes 2 they still can't afford health coverage. They are often critcally ill when they finally seek help because the could not afford to be sick. With all that ills our society you choose to expend your energy on a woman you dont even know? I pray you don't end up in my ER.

[AnnS]

Does the over $300,000 in tabloid money disqualify her for food stamps? Just wondering.

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when she gets the cehck in hand, the answer is YES

She is disqualified from Food Stamps

The kids on SSI (disability for very very low income households only) are kicked off SSI

The kids and she are all kicked off Medcaid.

She is off the public dole when she gets that money.

[M Scullion]

I am a widow with four children. Two daughters and a set of bo girl twins. I sustained a horrible back injury during the delivery of my twins (natural methods and birthing!) and still managed to reeducate myself and begin teaching. I have been teaching all of the most high risk students who are expelled from all schools. I go to wok daily and support my family. How dare this woman ask for public assistance, help, free childcare, food stamps or anything else. If she found the funds somehow to get over 30 thousand dollars of plastic surgery and to pay for artificial insemination fees, this should have been funds used to care for the kids she already brought into the world. The burden should be all her own as she intentionally had these kids to profit from their birth!!

[SysAdmin]

How STUPID! This idiot does this and all these stupid people rush to 'reward' her... I sure hope the State of California goes after all this money and takes back what she has stolen. It's time the rest of us call any TV channel that has her on and boycotts all the products pushed. It's going to cost $25 million to raise these kids and everyone knows who is going to have to pay in the end and THAT"s WRONG! My kid can do without because almost 60% of my pay goes to taxes but this scum can sit on her ass while 'babysitters' watch her kids. And while we all work atleast one job to pay for our homes this scum is going to live FREE in a 10 bedroom house with 7 bathrooms and a pool. What a country!

[june]

As long as it doesnt concern tax payers...knock urself out

[NZ]

This is probably the best its going to get for Nadya. Allred addressed the concerns of the rational folks who have concerns over Nadya's behavior, she filed a complaint many feel is completely warranted. If she can teach Nadya responsibility (which is a stretch at this point) and help care for the kids Nadya should accept it humbly. The outpouring of support Nadya was seeking in this ill conceived publicity stunt is a non starter. Allred shows heart along with being rational. If Angela's home gets sold at foreclosure despite Nadya's tabloid payday, those kids aren't going to learn a thing from a Nadya Suleman upbringing.

[hockeymom94]

Wonderful for the babies and children who obviously cannot be cared for by the mother......bring in the kids and let Mom go out and work full time and cocktail waitress at night to pay back the donors then come back to the facility and put in some midnight and 3 o'clock feedings!!

[barbara]

What's truly sad here is the Octomom is not able to take care of all the children she has and while some help from a charity is welcome, it takes away these professionals from being able to help other families. Sadly, there is no easy answer here. I would suggest that the charity take a look at the money octomom is getting from these interviews and ask her to make a very large donation to its coffers.

[MS]

Give her a break. She's going to need help with or without the public's approval.

[ngan]

I hope she takes the offer. I'm all for someone else taking care of her instead of taxpayer's money. It also seems the charity is quite financially stable to help her out in the long term. Are there strings attached with accepting the help?

[appltini]

This is the WRONG time for Gloria to find a heart! This woman Nadya is a selfish person who WANTS people to help her, give her money and an easy way out. She is a user. She is using California tax payers money, she using the media, her parents, and anyone else who will help her. Shouldn't have she thought about ALL of this before she decided to have 14 kids. I will lodge a complaint against this organization Allred and Angels in Waiting if they do not do the same for other mothers out there who need help. So please call this organization and ask them for help. They should not refuse as they are willing to help this loser they have no discriminations towards anyone. Being stupid isn't a disease but somehow there is always help for the most stupid.

[LALADY]

I am a single mother with 2 young children. Their father just walked out on us. I need help also. I filed for child support, but their father refuses to work. Can Gloria help me? PLEASE! I can barely pay our rent, gas and buy food each pay day. I need things for my children as well. Right now they need shoes. PLEASE HELP ME TOO!

[Melissa]

It pisses me off that her irresponsibility is reaping her a free house, help, etc. Her kids should be taken away because this woman is just not a fit mother.

[Who da thunk]

I actually think this is a very challenging and clever maneuver by Gloria. It is Nadya who elected to misrepresent the facts relative to receiving aid for herself or her children. Thus, the consequences of her public lack of credibility are now in process. She is not "sellable" at least for a high monetary amount, as the public has scorned her and she has embarrased herself in the public's eye. As we have all heard she has said she wanted many children, she loves her children and she will take care of her children. If Gloria Alred has a staff lined up taking the burden off the taxpayers I say great for her. For this woman to get further public assistance, medical, etc. would only perpetuate a repeat of this scenario by one or more copycats looking for a free ride. I think that her refusal under the circumstances to put the children first would be selfish and perhaps reflective of her initial motives for having 14 children. I say great, no state money, but Nadya will be under the microscope while living under these circumstances.

[Roy From Atwater]

This is unbelievably SICKENING!!!

Anyone who wants to help this woman ought to have their head examined...and their (and their children's - if they have any) reproductive organs removed!!! How STUPID can they be?

Please silence and banish her from the news.

[tsaoyen]

Looks like Nietzsche knew exactly what he was talking about 150 years ago when he said: 'Woman was God's second blunder.'

[Clint J Hoerner]

KNX has a story that octomom is very close to buying a $1.2.Million house in her neighboorhood.

[leslie]

It's amazing that she isn't being taken immediately to a psychiatrist for treatment and the children are not being given good homes with caring competent parents!

I became disabled in 2004, have applied and been denied and i am in the appeals process, but have seen not a dime in SSDI or SSI. Before that I worked for 25 years teaching and in nursing homes. I have two teens, get $219.00 per month in EBT to feed them, cannot drive due to seizures (and live in suburbs with hardly any public transportation), have no TV or cable, cannot pay the heat regularly and must go to food closets regularly on my bicycle.
I cannot afford lightbulbs, garbage bags, shampoo, and i use paper-towels with rubberbands for Band-aids.

WHERE IS MY HANDOUT??

[J. Kaylans]

Yes, Gloria is sleazy but the offer at least lets taxpayers in your practically broke state off the hook for all these kids' needs/expenses. If the nutcase octomom doesn't take Gloria's offer, the state should deduct its value from what it gives her. Beggars cannot be choosers!
And, yes, its rewarding really BAD behavior but the poor kids are innocent victimes that would otherwise suffer being raised by this insane woman.

[troy]

I'm sorry, but welfare, in all forms, just angers me to no end. I guess I can't be objective with this woman.

[CV]

Nadya can't care for her children. That's clear. The children should be put into the system and her parental rights taken away. She's delusional and I'm sure her parents know it. Give them up for adoption to families who are loving and can care for a child (or children). Forget Gloria Allred and the Angels. They're talking about $130,000 A MONTH? How about these angels donate their therapies and services for free instead of asking for people's money to pay them to care for these children. That would be a real donation - not their offer of getting paid to give their theraputic services for the children.

[Lyn]

Angels in Waiting probably has pure motives, but providing nursing care etc. does not give these children what they need the most: A mother AND father who are SANE, and who yearn to ADOPT!!!

Nobody is mentioning ADOPTION at all!! And, even if the OctoPuss accepts the help of this group, this will not stop her from getting welfare money for the next 40 years (all of these kids will have disabilities of some type because the "dr." fertilized and implanted too many). They will all be on welfare forever.

At least give the kids a chance at life with a normal mother and father who can care for them properly. Enough of this nonsense that fathers are not needed!!!!!!!!!!

[MUBTHR]

What kind of message is this sending to young girls out there thinking of trying the same thing? Look, a bailout. This woman wants to be in control of her situation, she will not want other people directing her. And this crazy doctor looks like he's enjoying his 15 minutes of fame, too. Can't someone figure out who the father of these children is?

[Joy]

Take the kids away from her. They are innocent, they deserve good homes. Since Octo-mom has spectacularly demonstrated that she is a totally insane free-loader, she should not be allowed to keep those kids -- they deserve sane parents who can properly care for them.

[KLR]

Please please, all of the bleeding hearts who think this is wonderful, including those who say the babies are already here so let's take care of them..........Please go donate to her so she'll get off of California's welfare.......yes welfare.......system. The more of your hard earned money she gets, the longer she stays off of our system. In fact, the State of California should launch an immediate investigation as to how she happened to be on state aid while having a substantial amount of money from an insurance settlement. Can you spell FRAUD and JAIL?

[maryannloya]

Dear Attorney Gloria,

Am sending this letter to you to say that is a nice offer you made about the Babies getting the Care they need, But you need not put yourself out in going to protect Family Service about theses Babies.

This Mother of eight newborns is getting better each Day and Stronger as her Babies are growning theses little ones need a lot of love and Care and her being of Abrean and I think part Irag theses people have different ways of raiseing there Babies and Children and all. And the public will come to Understand this situation and all, Who knows what this Mother as planes for her Babies and who knowes if she as found help already everyone needs to go and stand back and look at this situcation and stop makeing this new Mother feel guility about her Babies and all. And haveing Eight we need to reach out as good neighbores in helping her out in what ever she needs instead og going and saying Bab things about her and all.

Why doesent the Kileen Assoc. which is handleing her affaires go and start a Trust Fun for theses little ones instead of everying saying and not doing anything about the Mother that is not nice words to say to her and her 14 Children and all.

Love And Prayers And Peace To This single Mother and Father and there 14 Little Angeles

May God Watch Over Them and Bring Happyness To This Family Once Again

[Tom from New Jersey]

My big concern is what if she tries to get pregnant again. This is quite possible now that she has a little coin in her pocket.

[dorothyt]

Allred is greedy for fame. She's always jumping on the big bandwagons. I hope her offer is refused.

[Jeska]

I'd question the validity of the organization "Angels in Waiting". According to their website, angelsinwaitingusa.org, their mission is to recruit nurses to become foster parents for children with medical issues. The site does not specify how or where they recruit nor does it specify how any donations will be spent. Several of the webpages are incomplete and state they will be updated soon. The blog for nurses and care providors has only one comment.

The nurses are not paid by the organization but are paid by the state of California as foster parents and by MediCal. Where are the donations going? The founders, and officers, are a husband and wife who, no doubt, draw salaries from the donations but what is being done with the rest of money? It would be interesting to see a financial statement from the organization as I was unable to find one on any of the sites that verify charities. In addition, registered charities receiving less than $100,00 in donations a year and having less than $250, 000 in assets do not have to file any documentation with the IRS.

My personal opinion is that they are jumping on the octuplet bandwagon to solicit donations.

[Furious in Frisco]

I'm 28 years old, and have been responsible enough NOT to have children, and where does my hard earned money go? Certainly not to me! This is where it goes. To foul people like the OctoMom.

I'm hoping that she gets the children taken away from her...and given to loving homes of childless couples who desperately want a baby to love, and are responsible enough to understand that there are many, many babies out there who need homes.

So, we're rewarding irresponsible, awful, greedy people like OctoMom. And she's getting HANDOUTS!! That's disgusting. I'm boycotting any company/person who helps this media monger until the children are taken away and given to proper homes.

[Desperate Taxpayer]

It's not the children fault but neither mine. I do pay taxes and I DO NOT SUPPORT this horseplay. Nonprofit charity people (specially this lady, Linda West Conforti) STOPS using this lady's name to get supporters and money from the ones that do pay taxes.
The state of California should make that Zuleman lady pay for all the expenses the state has to cover for her foolishness. She is getting lots of money from her interviews and foolish people like the ones from non-profit organizations or any others.
Yes, she DOES NOT qualify for anything at all (food stamps, money, etc., etc.); she should give those children in adoption because she's totally NON-SENSE and not capable of raising those children with a common sense.

[Deb]

Her mother was paid $40,000 to go on a TV interview and 'dog' Nadya. Why don't she take some of that money and pay the $23, 000 that she's behind on her mortgage.
Because now they are looking at a million dollar home instead.

The babies didn't ask to be born, not their fault. They're already here.. Whats done is done. But, Nadya is going to be a rich women when this is all said and done.
And people are outraged because she has done in the past....

[Shahinah]

Cindy wrote:

"Nadya has 14 children to raise and it is not their fault there Mom had a temporary lapse in judgment, (remember Bill Clinton had a few of those). Anyway, NadyaMom needs help and so do the kids. So, let's help the kids and if Nadya gets help along the way, fine. Maybe she is raising a future president, or future cyclist or swimmer."

"Temporary lapse in judgment"? TEMPORARY?!? Are you kidding me? She has 14 kids in total , all of them conceived via IVF, and all of them under the age of 8. That means she's been pregnant roughly every year since 2000, and it didn't happen by going home with some hot guy on a whim. Even if her embryos implanted the first time every time, eight years or so is not "temporary", and IVF is not something you get on the spur of the moment like a new handbag. This is a woman who has blown over $100,000 on IVF treatments while she claims she's too "disabled" to work and needs food stamps to feed her kids as they come along. She has no income other than (fraudulently using) student loans, welfare and SSI, and sponging off her elderly parents. She's even admitted in the famous Ann Curry interview that she didn't love her former husband, she was only in love with "having babies" - not "children", mind you, but "babies". The only thing Nadya Suleman is interested in is herself and her own wants; the kids are nothing more to her than accessories, something to be collected like Pokemon cards or cat figurines.

Personally, I'm getting really tired of seeing people acting stupidly, getting in trouble of their own making, and then crying that they need "help" - and more often than not, getting it on MY tax dollar. Whether it's the auto industry, Wall Street, or Nadya Suleman, this coddling and rewarding of bad behavior has to stop.

And don't give me the "she could be raising a future president!" line. It's just as likely, if not more so, that she could be raising a future drug addict, bank robber, hooker, serial killer, or child abuser.

[Shelly]

OMG!! This woman is crazy!! How the hell do you not pay your mortgage for ten months, have six kids to take care of, and give birth to eight more??!! I would be an absolute wreck!! good lord! I guess ignorance really is bliss!! but, seriously, just by her insane actions alone, this woman is absolutely not fit to raise these children!! the folks that call for adoption have it right! all fourteen of them should be farmed out to loving families so they have a chance in life - or we'll be reading nightmare stories in the tabloids ten, fifteen, twenty years down the line!! forget the so-called help - and give it to these other folks pleading! there are plenty of people in true need that ended up there without having to tempt the fates the way Octomom has! It's really tough out there for lots of folks - especially the single parents - there should be resources for all - not just the tabloid-worthy!! This whole situation is disgusting!! And this woman should have to take some responsibility for her decisions!!

[Unfair]

Not only I'm in utter disbelief at this craziness, I don't even think words can actually describe this person's behavior. Now, her stupidness and selfishness can go one step further: if volunteer nurses take care of the octuplets (in eight hours shifts) and they also help the disabled kids, what the h*** is she gonna do? Organize other people's works so that she can enjoy her disablity payment?
I can't understand it: she was badly injured, but could carry so many pregnancies to term. And now, she won't need to do squat because some else will clean up her mess. I can't believe it!
Someone thought of teaching her to be responsible? Ms. Allred should also pay some therapy and training for her, so that people can take care of their own families and work, pay taxes to maintain her!
Unbelievable

[twoods]

i feel that she should made a big mistake having all them kids wiyhout a father in the picture because 14 kids will drive u crazy becase i had 1 singw daughter the a year later had twins and i went crazy so i know she can't take care 14 kids by her self if she get help i need help too becase my twin son is wearing size 16 in shoes and my other son is 13 in shoes so i need help too

[for the kids]

Alright. My opinion is that these kids (all 14) should be taken from OctoMom. She obviously has some issues, and is not stable enough to care for these children. These kids could have a much better life if they had two parents that could take care of them and pay attention to them. She needs to face the facts and realize that there is no way that she can care for them in the ways they need. Adoption would be the best for these kids. The seperation isnt so great, but at least they could be loved. I support this womans mother as well for putting up with this lady for all this time. And, what is up with the Angelina Jolie thing. I think she is great and all, but she, like OctoMom, is sending out a bad message to women/girls that that many kids is possible/right to do. Yeah Angelina Jolie can actually afford those kids, but its not right.

[ELM]

"There was an old woman who lived in a shoe, she had so many children she didn't know what to do." Wanton and reckless Nadya Sulemen, known also as Natalie Denise Suleman, Nadya Denise Doud, Natalie Denise Doud and Natalie Suleman-Gutierrez while married, has a little too much fruit in her loop! 7-year-old Elijah Makai Solomon (boy), 6-year-old Amerah Yasmeen Solomon (girl), 5-year-old Joshua Jacob Solomon (boy), 3-year-old Aiden Solomon (boy), 2-year-old Calyssa Arielle Solomon (girl, twin), 2-year-old Caleb Kai Solomon (boy, twin), Noah - male 2 lbs 11 oz, Maliah - female 2 lbs 12 oz, Isaiah - male 3 lbs 4 oz, Nariah - female 2 lbs 8 oz, Makai - male 1 lb. 8 oz, Josiah - male 2 lbs 12 oz,Jeremiah - male 1 lb 15 oz & Jonah - male 2 lbs 11 oz. All have Angel as middle name & Solomon as last name. Doubtfull that "David Solomon" is the biological father's real name but appears on four of prior children's birth documents; one documents listing Solomon 's "State of birth" as Israel. Nadya Suleman started procedures to change her legal name to Nadya Solomon in 2001; name remained unchanged, no name-change decree on file. Hmmmmm!!

[ELM]

New Mexico Court Sperm Donor Case: Sperm donor must pay!! Precedent set.

Means not every sperm donor is protected from not paying child support. Only an anonymous donor or a known donor providing sperm to a licensed Dr. under an agreement in writing in which the donor agreed to give up parental

rights are protected from paying child support. Up pops the question: Did any one or more of Nadya's donors sign an agreement with Cal State licensed Dr. Kamarav? Donating sperm in Nadya's breast at home may not be covered. May not get her donor or those donor(s) off the support hook. If the mystery octuplet donor doesn't know if they are his or not, he must not have signed in at at the IVF clinic. If not the mystery of who did still remains. Someone must have had to sign a sperm donor agreement or was it intentionally ommitted. Nadya used to work at a fertility clinic. Did she work for Dr. Kamarava? All will surface eventually!

[Sherri]

It is shameful to see charities such as “Angels in Waiting” and people like Gloria Allred try to exploit the Suleman octuplets for publicity and fame. The offer made by “Angels” is neither sincere nor realistic. It is reported that the monthly cost to support these children is $135,000 and it a hard to believe that a charity like “Angels” has the funds to provide such support to the Seleman’s. Furthermore, the offer was given via e-mail and has an expiration date for this Thursday (2/26/2009), a few days after the babies are expected to be released from the hospital, which leads one to believe that the neither the delivery method nor ability to respond to the offer are realistic. There is an implicit ethical morality that charities are not supposed to profit from the people they are trying to help. Offering free services to Nadya Suleman enables her to use more of the money she is receiving from exploiting her children through the sale of pictures to tabloids to fuel her need for celebrity. There will be a time when Ms. Suleyman will no longer be able to care for her children and child welfare services will take on their care. Although Ms. Suleyman has her own issues, society needs to stop creating celebrities out of people with problem and in this case need to stop exploiting eight innocent children. I applaud the Learning Channel for not pursuing a reality show with Nadya Suleman and networks for turning down her demands for $2 million dollars for her first interview . It is a poor reflection on our society when media outlets stop exploiting issues and non-profit organizations try to gain off them. To be quite honest, blogging on the subject is likely to further perpetuating exploitation of the octuplets and inflate the celebrity of Nadya Suleman.

[Marina Dupree]

SSI, which Octomom's disabed kids get and Medi-caid/Food Stamps are need based programs. You have to qualify financially to get benefits. ashe's required to report any change in come immediately.

If she hasn't, she's committing welfare fraud-no question about it.

Add that and is she still a fit mother? No.

[kelly]

Is it only me, but shouldn't the state of California be investigating how she can afford a 10,000 procedure but can't afford food for her children. IF she used her 10,000 towards food she would not have needed food stamps. I thought this was considered fraud and illegal in the US., Why is this not being investigated? I feel very sorry for the 14 children because they are not going to get the attention they deserve. Also the older kids will have to grow up quickly. Her bad decisions are affecting both taxes and welfare and that should not be overlooked. Also god didn't make her pregnant. Science and a doctor did. She did not get pregnant naturally. There are so many isses and problems with this. The doctor is not the only one who should be investigated. Also with her getting all this money from pictures and interviews she should not qualify for food stamps this year. I hope she puts that money on her taxes. Also why doesn't she use that money to keep the house? Does she expec someone just to give her a house. Boy we are all suckers if we give her that. These kids need a stable home, but with someone who has time and attention. Most parnts with this many kids had them years apart ad they are not all under 7. Noone could parent 14 kinds under 7 on there own. If she didn't have mental problems before she will after 1 year trying to raise 14 on her own.

[N]

Anyone who donates or assists this irresponsible woman is effectively ENABLING her behavior and encouraging other similarly dysfunctioning people to do the same. There is NO WAY anyone (including the media!) should fund her abuse of our taxpayer money and that includes this angelsinwaiting organization which gets funding from the state. What should happen here is that the children should be fostered and hopefully adopted by RESPONSIBLE parents. Nadya has scammed enough with her first 6 (Food stamps, SSI, fraudulently using School loans and MediCal), her faked back injury (workman's comp @ $169,000), and now the milllions of dollars of hospital bills for the octuplets. Enough is ENOUGH.

[SS]

What kind of evil charity is that? Accept my offer of help or I'll have your family broken apart, your children taken away. Ms. Suleman should stay as far from Gloria Allred and her "charity" as possible. And since when did giving birth in a hospital give the hospital legal custody over your children? Who are they to tell a mother whether or not her children, once healthy, can come home?

[Kathy]

The long and the short of it is that there are 14 young children that need adequate care. Nadya Suleman will need help providing that care. It is clear she is quite obsessed with her children, although one cannot call that criminal. I'm obsessed with my own three children and beware any that would step between me and them! Nadya has incredible concern for these children and although her choices of having a very large family without a supportive husband and paycheck to sustain them have caused great public outcry, she is and forever will be a mother. And a mother will die for her children.
Obsessed and in love with her kids? That's one obsession that I as a mother understand.

[sunday michelle weiss]

Ok, if Octo mom is turning away round the clock care for her special needs premies, social services in california needs to have a sit down with octo mom and let her know that these special medical needs infants need more care than a mother with out,... octo-arms can provide. i mean really, this is just stupid on octo mom's part. Her infants physical health and nutritional needs when they leave the hospital must be priority one, not a reality show. I would like to say i would like to see a reality show that includes the multitude of therapists, and home helpers, if they would agree to be filmed,I have a huge heart for support services for low birth weight special need infants, my son was low birth weight, I had to fight social services to get us help, and the speech therapist, occupational therapist, and physical therapist were worth the fight, my son had a mild case of cerebral palsy that was remediated by all his therpaists, and special ed teachers, and a I.E.P. through eighth grade, I never though to hug my therapists, or special needs teachers I was so afraid I had to tow a hard line to keep their services, but now I realize how much I needed them, more so, my son needed them. My only complaint is when my son was ready to be removed from I.E.P. and mainstreamed, after his years ofhis therapy and special ed brought him up to average speed, I did not ensure he learned how to guide himself with time managment skills through school projects, and with self, time management, in the way the structure of special ed and his teachers had given him for his first 8 years in school. We stumbled where we did not need to, but we are still moving along. and I love each and every therapist, and teacher, and bus driver and janitor who always had kind words and gave us loving, considerate and dignified services. I hope octo -mom realizes you would need octo- arms and octo-eyes to take care of all of her children and she gets eight therapists for some serious self counseling, to accept the services her children deserve. If she truly loved her children more than herself and celebrity this would be her first and only consideration for immediate safety and help for her infants.

[sunday michelle weiss]

I hope Gloria Alred keeps her offers of help for the children comming, it will be years before the children realize how much danger they were really in without compassionate intervention for their health and welfare, and these infants did not do a darn thing to get a self-centered immature over-fertalized mother to look out for them. The children are worth overlooking the ikk factor the mother sends out at times. besides with the grandparents, its a california epidemic grandparents raising grandchildren, I would like to see that angle of the story told in a reality series, Grandparents are unsung heros, trying to raise their own child,and their childs children. without the benefit of parenting classes and parenting magazines later generation had the benefit of. I like Octo-Grandmother and Grandfather.