African American groups meet over Proposition 8

African American clergy, elected officials and community activists will lead a three-hour town hall meeting this morning on the black community and Proposition 8, the measure that restored a ban on same-sex marriage.

The session, from 8 to 11 a.m., will take place at Los Angeles Trade-Technical College, 400 W. Washington Blvd.

The event will include a series of panels moderated by the Los Angeles Sentinel newspaper and local writer and political activist Jasmyne Cannick. Among other topics, panelists will discuss gay rights and the public's reaction to the high percentage of black voters who supported the measure. 

"We don't typically discuss these types of issues, not in a public setting," said Cannick, who is black and gay. "But there's a lot of chitchat out there, at the mall, the nail shop, the barbershop. It's a topic of conversation."

For information, call (323) 299-3800.

Comments

[Elton's friend]

Gay white man speaking...

As a gay man I have always been more sensitive to minority rights, issues and concerns than your typical white man would. I took the time to educate myself about affirmative action, immigration policy, the holocaust, Brown Vs. the Board of Education, etc. etc. I always believed that my understanding and vocal activism (and I can be vocal!) with friends, family and co-workers would serve my own needs as gay because the same tools to unravel racism and anti-Semitic thoughts and behaviors would do the same for Gays.

The fact that 70% of the African American population does not think beyond their own injustices was an eye opener to say the least. It has been very difficult for me to look at Black people the same, knowing that they overwhelming would rather have me a 2nd class citizen.

it's just the reality. I've yet to understand how it happened.

[Maria]

"We don't typically discuss these types of issues, not in a public setting"

Just a reminder, from the pulpit . . . that is public

[Gerald]

It is great that the community comes together to speak on any issue. What puzzles me is that the gay groups attacked others when they did not get their way in a democratic venue. What is there to discuss after wards?

I believe the gay and lesbian community has done more to hurt heterosexual relationships in the black community than crack cocaine or Jim Crow because too many sisters equate their hardships with that of the latter immoral struggle, influential Hollywood portrayals in to the mainstream culture, & financial incentives offered to loyalty.

[Sir Tony Blair]

@ Elton's friend - Are you serious? You cant be to not understand the difference between civil rights and gay/lesbian rights. First off, your community wasnt totally together for the cause. If so, they would have passed it with flying colors. Whether you want to beleive it or not, a majority of the gay/lesbian community doesnt want to have the same rights as heterosexual couples when it comes to marriage... They just want to have fun with out the possibility of commitment, in case they change their mind and decide to go back. But really, its a money/lifestyle issue. Ill give you an example -

There are many high-powered homosexual's throught various fields but mainly Entertainment (music & film). For them, is a lifestyle decision. They dont want to marry and possibly have to share and split community property's with someone they solely consider a "lover". I'm not saying all gays and/or lesbians think this way, but a majority of them do and it showed when it was time to come out and support a cause.

Where were the fundraisers & awareness campaigns that should have been backed by the likes of Elton John, David Geffen, Benny Medina, etc.??? High-powered individuals who daily have a hand in changing and molding popular culture??? They werent in suport because to them it's a money issue! And thats the bottom line! The mentally of those are simple "I'm homosexual because I prefer men and/or women but I wouldnt want to have the same responsibilities as i would if I was Heterosexual" period point blank!

You dear sir should know this as "Elton's friend" - Elton John being someone who was sooo against gay marriage. As well as Rosie O'Donnel, David Geffen and so forth and so on...

Once the homosexual community can come together as a whole for the purpose, maybe more people would support. But for now it's look at as a fad, and lifestyle of the moment to some based on the actions and commens of those within the gay/lesbian community.

In this election, Blacks as well as other minorities showed up in droves as this was a historical moment - I dont feel the gay and lesbian community thought of it was such for themselves. I think they THOUGHT it's so many of us, how could it not pass?

The bill didnt pass because again the gay/lesbian community is split.

Minorities & Americans in general werent split on Obama and it showed...

Sir Tony Blair

[Cameron]

70% of the black vote voted yes on Prop. 8 but was 70% of the vote black? As a gay black man, I am all too well educated on the belief and views of the black community, especially when it comes to homosexuals. But we just have to rise above and keep fighting for what we believe. I persoanlly think the discrimation against gay blacks from the gay community is despicable, even moreso than the outcome of the Prop. 8 vote. You're misdirecting your hate, at those who cerainly don't deserve it. If you meet hate with hate nothing will get solved.

[Tobias]

Eltons friend,

I applaud you on going beyond your own reality and taking up an interest in other group's struggle. I think that if more people did this our communities and country would be much better off. I was however a bit taken when you said that you look at black people differently. I think that statement undermines everything you said before. Remember there are plenty of black gay folk. The two are not mutually exclusive. I'd also like to mention that the outreach done by gay rights groups against prop 8 to the black community was minimal. Despite that fact that black folk in this country have historically been marginalized, there may be reasons why they do not see gay rights being civil rights. There is aslo a gulf between the white gay community and gay communities of color. Based on what you said about looking at black folk differently, you should also look at white people differently bacuse without them the prop would not have passed. Blacks only make up 9% of the electorate. There were also 30% of blacks that were against it.

[Tosweet]

In regards to the comment post by Gerald, and made by several white and may homosexual people. Regardless if your belief as a human you can make choices, even if you don't believe you chose to be gay, and I am not sure you did. However, there are some people that it is a clear choice, ie bi sexual. That is an issue, I am still not clear on, but you don't have to tell anyone your gay, you can get a job and reveal it later.
I am black everyday, of every hour and the world see's me that way I would like to challenge the idea that, being black and being gay are the same. To understand the 70% of us. You must first see the religous aspect of the African American Commuity. The bible defines a marriage between a man and a woman. You may not believe that and it is ok. However; we you are attempting to remove that core value from our community and that is a conflict.

Now with that said. Although I am black, and I do not support Gay marriage per say. I believe you should have the right to have with your partner of choice every right exteded to each american. To build to protect your unity and family. This to me,, and again, I speaking for myself. meaning the two of you should be able to financially support eachother, legally insure eachother, and anything else I can do with my husband. However, do we have to call that marriage? I believe these rights should be extended to many people for example. If two sister never marry, live together for a long period of time, they too should have the right to have the right to make decisions that will greatly impact the other's life.

So I say to you, please do not think differently of us, for the most we all have a cousin, brother, sister, uncle or Aunt that is homesexual,. We love and respect them as we do you, but to not infringe on our spritual and religous views, we need the proprosition to read a bit different. I personally think the proposition should be rewritten and we should have (Civil unions), another word used to describe non hetrosexual unity.

So please don't look at me differently, I believe you will have every right owed and I also believe we should not have to vote for that to happen.

[math genius]

Okay It's Time Someone Did The Numbers.

Black voters made up 10% of all voters according to exit polls; of that 10%, 70% voted yes. Whites made up 63%; of that 63%, 49% voted yes. Now, lets say that, hypothetically, 1 million people voted. That would mean that 70,000 black people voted for prop 8 versus 308,700 white people. I believe that it is time that the community stops using the black vote as the scapegoat for why prop 8 was passed.

[PeterPiper]

"The fact that 70% of the African American population does not think beyond their own injustices was an eye opener to say the least. It has been very difficult for me to look at Black people the same..."

What about the Mormons and the Catholics and all the old people who supported Prop 8? Are you mad at them too? Of course not.

And what about the many Blacks and Latinos in the gay community (who are effectively discriminated against twice)? Has it been difficult for you to look at them?

I have and always will support gay rights 100%. However, I do not appreciate nor condone the scapegoating of the black community for doing nothing more than exercising their right to vote and expressing their opinions (whether you agree with them or not). The last time I checked this was still a democracy and we are not going to begin the process of disenfranchising Blacks because a percentage of them don't support gays. Not happening. So I suggest you keep the hate to yourself from now on before you lose what few allies you have remaining in the Black and Latino communities. B/c the blame and the finger pointing (at the wrong group no less!) is an absolute turn off. Here's hoping that your views are in the minority in the gay community.

(BTW, Blacks made up less than 10% of the electorate in California this election season. Doesn't it seem kind of counterproductive to be directing 100% of your anger at 10% of the population? Also, how do you explain the passing of similar proposals in Arizona and Florida? Should we once again blame minorities for that? Hun, I know you're upset but when you really sit down and think about it, this whole "Blame the Blacks" thing just doesn't hold water.)

[sg]

I fully support the vote and applaud the communities who stand up for what is good and wholesome. The community has voted and spoken and their vote should stand. Keep standing! The way of truth and righteous leads to opposition but God rewards the faithful. Continue to stand for the holiness of God's institution and do not succumb to the pressure to change your position.

[Mrs. Harden]

You know, this country and its colonialization is embarassing; hateful; and ignorant. America seems to have the dreadful skill of divide and conquer and has seemed to have found yet another way to divide us.

I agree with Elton's friend | November 22, 2008 at 03:55 PM;
have homosexuals become the latest victim of hatred?? Treated like 2nd class citizens? We should be ashamed of ourselves passing judgement on others. Take the time to get to the PERSON first, and then determine your likes and or dislikes from that..................THEN determine your likes and dislikes. Most of our judgements are preconceived notions spoon fed to us unfortunately by family and friends.

I have been fortunate enough to have been raised in a family where several of my first cousins are homosexual. We were raised " love is love honey". It has no boundaries, and why should it???? I say all that to say, I have my reservations about marriage in the gay community, but when I think of the struggles and stife of my ancestors (African descendants) its a reminder of how we shouldn't inflict the very thing we protest against in the name of race. EQUALITY ..........PERIOD

[Shellese]

I don't know why the homosexual community feels like the Proposition passed because of the black community. No one is taking your right to live as you see fit. You're not going to jail because of your sex preference. No one makes you sit at the back of the bus or have you leave your seat to have a straight person sit there. I could go on and on but I hope you get the picture. If not, check out any civil rights documentary. My point is that while the homosexual community raises heck if they feel like someone is forcing a certain lifestyle or beliefs upon them but that is exactly what they are trying to do to people in America who don't believe in their lifestyle. Shouldn't their fight be with major corporations who decide on who can be on your insurance policy or something?

[sohighATL]

As a black lesbian I feel like nobody understands what "we" being BLACK and GAY..and for me WOMAN also feel when it comes to situations like this. I just really think black folks are so TRADITONAL and cant seem to wiggle from that...not even when u put the proof or facts in their faces....but its ok...lol...that is like beating a dead horse...and so is this but i will keep going..

I dont feel its ness. for me to push my views and try to get simple understanding from close minded people but my question is DO PEOPLE PUT THIS MUCH STRESS AND WORK INTO DIVORCE? LIKE I DONT SEE DIVORCE ON THE BALOTT. NO ONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THAT....HUH?....IF MARRIAGE IS SOOOOO SACRED AND ONLY STR8 PEOPLE ARE ENTITLIED TO IT.....WELL HOW ABOUT LETS JUST LOCK U IN....FOREVER REALLY..INSTEAD OF UNTIL IM BORED WITH YOU OR WE CANT GET ALONG.

We have all these lets get married shows and divocrce court is even funnier but people want to PROTECT marriage but the Divocre rate is so high. HMM i still dont get that.

I do agree that not enough education has been brought to the black community from the homosexual community but i still dont see why it bothers people so much what other people do with their lives.

Now since the laws have been passed also banning Homosexuals from addopting thats another big MISTAKE....now there are thousands if not millions of kids out there who WILL STAY STUCK IN THE SYSTEM. all because a group of people cant stand to stomach something they dont UNDERSTAND...and FEAR = Ignorance....people are soooo afraid of what they dont understand.

Never thought you'd see a black president huh? remember WOMENS SUFFRAGE?......we have to move past this and im sure gays and lesbians bisexuals and transgendered will be able to live normal lives...reguardless of what u see normal is....becuase 100 YEARS AGO NONE OF THIS WOULD BE "NORMAL"......RIGHT?

ALL IN ALL IF THIS IS AMERICA AND WE ARE "ALL" CREATED EQUAL....dont seem to be too equal huh?

[Darla]

The word gay should be defined as attack, because anything that dont go your way you all attack. If you say something you all dont like you attack. You all have the right to Civil Unions and the country should not have to change the definition of marriage just because you want the titled. Get a life. And another thing what you are fighting for do not even attempt to measure up to fighting to be treated like a human, which is what the true CIVIL RIGHTS era was about.

[hation fresh]

being gay is not the same thing as being black....being gay is a SExual orientation.....u dont have to be gay...but black people have to be black....so in NO way is your struggle the same as a person of color...i feel marriage is between a man and a women...stop trying to make your sexual fantasies look like a real struggle cuz its not

[bfstatistician]

To the gay white man:

Before you go off the deep end—attributing black people as the cause of why prop 8 was passed, you should try to understand all of the statistical facts. It was reported that exit polls indicated that 7 out of 10 black people voted yes on prop 8. However, what does that mean in terms of the actual number of votes? According to the 2006 U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey, California’s entire population was estimated at 36,457,549. Black people account for a mere 6.7% of the entire population or 2,201,043.

Now, let’s see what percentage of black people are 18 and over, not in prison or a mental institution, legal US residents (we are here illegally too), not Jehovah’s Witnesses (most do not believe in voting and act accordingly (with all due respect, see Venus and Serena), and are not felons (who cannot vote)? Better yet, why don’t you report the number of black people that actually voted—because some blacks do not want anything to do with the political process period and just won’t vote either way! So, after you get that number then take your “exit poll’s estimate of 70%” and apply that number and see what you get—a very small subset of the voting population!!!! I am not arguing that black people are super tolerant and generally not homophobic, but I am arguing with how you have taken one exit poll to validate your disdain for my people ("I don't look at them the same"). BTW, most blacks could care less about gay marriage, really. To those that do, that is their right, as it is their religious belief.

Nevertheless, as usual, I can see where this is going, American politics as usual. Divide and conquer.

And BTW when I have seen the gay community in MY community fighting for my rights or defending theirs? And please, with all due respect, enough of the 2nd class citizen mantra. You are not the descendants of slaves, you do not have living parents who were denied the RIGHT to vote, who were beaten, and sprayed with water hoses that ripped the flesh off of their skin. You were NEVER called a boy, when you are fully man, you were NEVER forced to drink out of a fountain that says gay only. You were NEVER forced to sit in the back of the bus. Your mothers were not raped because of the color of their skin. Your gay rights movement leaders were not targeted or killed by our country as was Martin, Malcolm, Medgar, Fred Hampton, Huey P Newton, and Assata Shakur (still a target). and the list goes on and ON. So, before you again go out on the deep end, you come down to South Central, or Watts, or Harlem, or the Bronx, or Baltimore and please learn to "tolerate" and protect the rights of those people too. Fight against poverty and issues in the "minority" community.

So, you can think of us however you like, but when you target our black gays and lesbians who walked with you for No 8, then we see YOU for who you are too. See the flaws in this logic? And don't come to us just because you want to "use" us for our vote either. Genuine and sincere dialogue will get you a long way.

[Sheri]

To the gay white man: Being and who one chooses to sleep with are two very different things. Instead of blaming blacks for Prop 8 being voted down why don't you read your bible especially the part about homosexuality and get some clarification on the subject..

[Tiffany]

I am an African American woman and people don't take into account that religion does play a big part in this. Also the way people were brought up does have an effect an the decision that was made. I think it is unfair to blame the black community for this because there were other races that did vote. Even if an African American person doesn't go to church on the regualr basis doesn't mean they don't embosy the many beliefs that are in the bible. I know plenty of people that do and it can suprise you how many people use the bible as their reason why they don't agree with it, people that you wouldn't even see in church a day in their life. How can you blame them for sticking to their beliefs? Personally I do not think they should have passed this bill but what is done has been done. There is always a chance it can be reinstated.

[jason820]

"being gay is not the same thing as being black....being gay is a Sexual orientation.....u don't have to be gay...but black people have to be black....so in NO way is your struggle the same as a person of color...i feel marriage is between a man and a women...stop trying to make your sexual fantasies look like a real struggle cuz its not"

You know as a Black gay Male it infuriates me when i hear black people say stupid things like this.
Firstly let me give you a little history in slavery; The first people to have slaves where Africans we enslaved and sold our own people to the "white people" so don't say that these are things that cant be controlled you can control being black you can control going out and shooting up neighborhoods and selling drugs to your own family members and hating another black person because they are lighter or darker than you ...don't tell me that we cant control these things.

Maybe if we as a people start acting like human being with some decency about ourselves then maybe other races will start to respect us I mean its a true saying respect yourself or no one else will.

You says that being gay is something people have control over? Ha! do you think if i had a choice between knowing that im going to be ridiculed or possibly murdered and even disowned by my family that i would choose to be gay? Seriously would you want to have to go through those things? NO so being gay is not a choice its not at all so get your fact straight.

I swear some times my people just make no sense you whine and complain about not being treated equally but your so quick to try and take someone else's rights.

You have " Civil Unions" you say, thats just like sayin you can ride the bus but get in the back. I mean come on people.

Then you have these people the bible says this and that......Well lets see the bible says that you shouldn't have sex till your married but you dont care about that, the bible says do not commit adultery but you do that.....the bible says love thy neighbor as you love yourself hmmm but you dont do that either do you....think about what you say before you come to me saying anything about the bible.....anytime the majority of child molesters are your preachers and ministers, which by the way Im sure the bible also speaks against, then maybe its time to re think some of these things.

[xman]

I dont understand the back woods mentality in this; for those who think this is a choice is sadly mistaken; this was not a choice that we were born with. I dont chose to be gay bashed I didnt chose to be who I am. You bible thumpers out there CHOSE to force your views down peoples throats you chose tell us that were not EQUAL you chose to divide us and say we are 2nd class. Should we forget the countless times that we were in concentration camps put there because we are different from Hitler; or the countless people that have been sodimized, beaten or KILLED because of who we were. This is politics and your views on religion do not go hand in hand into politics. What about those who are Jewish or Muslim; Im an Atheist so I really dont care about your GOD; so why should it bother you who I chose to spend the rest of my life with. All we ask for is to be treated as equal's. If Massachusetts can do it Canada can do it, Spain Can do it, Connecticut can do it. and they havent burnt to the ground than were is your so called GOD?

The only thing I see here is Religion using the same scare tactics as Bush did, to keep its flock in line. Do you need religion to make up your own mind up?

If this is as you say a CHOICE than why dont those who think this is a choice sleep with person of the same sex and see if it is a CHOICE?

[Zach]

For those who say being gay is a choice, I'd like to hear when you last chose to be straight. Do you look at a man as you do a woman but just decide you just want the opposite sex that day? I expect you don't, so why would you think gay people make that decision? And to those who would go on to say that gay people can hide it and should if they don't want to be persecuted, do you tell black people to go talk to Michael Jackson about skin treatment, too?

Apparently some of us don't care to protect anyone's rights when those people can just pretend to be something they're not to save us all the trouble. Have we become that selfish a people that equal rights are only something we care about until we get ours?

[Mahogany Jones]

All I Have To say is read THE OVERHAULING OF STRAIGHT AMERICA It's an article from the late 1980s by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen aka Erastus Pill - No more need to be said about the gay/homosexual agenda.

[Josh Stewart]

As a strait man who has gay friends i find it MIND BOGGLELING that a seemingly united community that is supposedly built on tolerance and understanding is so quick to judge and generalize another [population... after prop 8 was passed how many of you reverted to racist comments and attitudes towards African Americans... lets not forget that the majority of the people who voted for prop 8 were in fact card carrying Anglo Saxon Caucasians... not to mention there were other groups like the Hispanics who also largely voted for it... yet when the going got thought, the ugly head of racism rears up again... big surprise... instead of playing the blame game ... get the facts strait and don't generalize people the same way many do to you... The English puritans came to this country to avoid taxation without representation and to establish religious freedom for all ... but then soon after settling became the same thing they hated most intolerant oppressors... don't let the same happen to your community to lash out against a whole demographic for the actions of a few is utterly ignorant and pointless and to impose your viewpoint on others is equally detestable wake up unite and handle things the smart way...

[Jomn]

to Maria:

"We don't typically discuss these types of issues, not in a public setting"

Just a reminder, from the pulpit . . . that is public

However preaching from the pulpit is hardly ever a discussion.

[Mr. J.]

Everyone viewing this post, who have any reservation about the push for, and the promotion of, militant homosexual activism should first understand this:

(1) Open, militant homosexal act-up'ism is part of a grand social engineering project devised and lead by certain ruling-classes in American and Western societies, to further weaken and breakdown the cornerstone of any socety - i.e., FAMILY (man, woman, offspring), so that it would be more managable into the future.

Those ruling classes know that the natual and universal order of Family is resistant to certain social manipulatiions waged to increase political and economic power for themselves. Thus, they unleashed the homosexual demons out of the "closet" by making it a special, protected class akin to Race, Creed and Color and injected the false and bogus idea that the CHOICE to suck-off another man, or eat-out another woman, is the same as being of the Black race or belonging to it's horrifying past, as well as it's current strugles.

Any self-respecting Black person should be highly offended at this, and should protest loudly the outrage of attempting to co-op and degrade a glorious race of people and their historical struggles !!!

It does not matter how many Blacks practice homosexuality- in or out of the "closet" - THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA DOES NOT HAVE A DAMN THING TO DO WITH BEING BLACK, AND BLACK HISTORICAL STRUGGLES !!

Also, Blacks, have all rights and perogatives to morally or politically regect open homosexuality. That fact that militant homo's won't respect that tells everyone they're not worthy to even talk to on the matter, much less reconsider one's opposition to them.

None of the homosexual practitioners can rightly label Blacks "bigots" or "discriminating" or "closed-minded" because noone can trace Black history - the oldest of all human history - pre or post slavery - on the African continent or away - and find homosexuality enbraced and normalized in the mainstream... even to this very day.

Open, militant and defiant homosexuality has been, and is, very destructive to Black male/female relationships, and Blacks need to speak-out & fight back against attacks by those who want to IMPOSE their perverse LIFESTYLE on everybody else.

GO BACK IN THE CLOSET !!
(...or at least leave everyone else the hell alone ! )

[Zach]

Of course, the conspiracy theorists like Mr. J forget to mention that the only reason the "militant homosexuals" are out there in the first place is because paranoid people like him COULDN'T leave them alone to get married and live in peace. For six months gay people married quietly and happily, bothering no one. Did you even know that when you voted Yes on 8? What horror had come to California that you were trying to stop?

Rest assured, the protesters are not some faceless "militant homosexuals," and often not even "gay activists" in the sinister sense of the words that people use. No, they are your family members, your coworkers, and your neighbors, engaging in an a time-honored American tradition of political action because their rights have been threatened. Think of that next time guys like Mr. J or some hate-mongering radio pundit starts going off about THOSE PEOPLE as if they were some kind of foreign invader. That's the real conspiracy here - demagogues and politicians peddling hate to boost ratings and divide minority groups against each other.

[Sam]

As a Mother who's daughter has just came out as Gay. I must say that I support her wholeheartedly despite my religious belief.
My daughter and I had a discussion on yesterday about Prop 8, and we've come to the conclustion that as long as the Term marriage is used it will never pass if taken to a vote. Most people who support same sex relationships still see the term Marriage as a union between a man and a woman.
The Civil Rights movement in my opinion has nothing to do with gay rights.
I love all people no matter what their sexual orientation. I also believe that the Gay community has to meet people who don't see things the way they do half way. People are intitled to the way they feel, and they should not be attacked or disrespected because of how they feel. With that said people should be able to love who they love without the fear of prosecution. Only God can Judge because all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

[Marcus]

I think some of the posters jumped on Elton's friend a little hard, he was just being honest.

I have to say I feel exactly the same way. White. Gay. Been in many situations where I called out family members over racism. Supported black candidates. Attended (welcoming) black churches. Vote for affirmative action. None of this was anything special, just seemed like the right thing to do.

Then wham!, you find out these people you believed in actually hate you enough to want to take away your fundamental rights. What do you do?

My attitude has shifted as well. I strongly oppose one thin dime of my tax money going to "faith based" programs in these neighborhoods. Why should my money be spent to teach people to hate me?

And no I dont hate back. But dont expect me to stand up anymore.

[Del]

Elton's friend, if you were that well informed you would be able to frame this in some other terms than "70% of the African American population does not think beyond their own injustices." You too, Marcus. Learning about the lack of inclusion of people of color in the No on 8 campaign would be a start. Learning about racism towards people of color in gay communities nationwide that led to that lack of inclusion would be a good next step after that.

I'm very tired of white gay men suddenly deciding that Black people "owed" them unanimous support for that proposition when the gay community as a whole did nothing to advocate for that support.

[danny]

"Then wham!, you find out these people you believed in actually hate you enough to want to take away your fundamental rights. What do you do?"

You use common sense.

Do you think EVERY black person is against you?

Do you think EVERY black person is trying to take away your rights?

Do you think EVERY black person is homophobic?

If you answered YES to the questions above, you have even bigger issues.

"These people" are not against you and not EVERY black person is the same.

[black heterosexual female]

In response to gay white man, it is just as many gay black people who are affected by prop 8. not passing, so how can you just focus on one race of people. Stop blaming. There was a voting process in which we all were a part of. Every vote was counted including the white vote, latino vote, etc.

Why are you not looking at those other races differently? You must be a racist (secretly). Unconfirmed statistics from the media doesn't make it true.