I was snooping around Kate in the Valley's blog the other day, checking up on Sherman Oaks listings, and Kate recommended a very cool blog about interior design and home remodeling, so I'll pass it on.
If you are interested in what you can do to stylize a '50's-era tract house, check out The Brick House, which tracks the ongoing renovation of a plain-Jane brick house in Hemet. Moto: "All about fixing up a 1950's mid-century cement brick house. Trying to make it awesome and do it on a tight budget."
The blog, and the home decorating, are the work of artist Morgan Satterfield, who lived in Los Angeles before moving to the Brick House in Hemet. Yes, it's in Hemet and it's cool.
The house is still a work in progress. The blog is fun and very accessible — flea market finds, trying to duplicate a look you've seen in a Martha Stewart magazine, paint swatches on the side of the house, etc.
— Peter Viles
Your thoughts? Comments? E-mail story tips to Peter Viles.
Photo Credit: The Brick House
Kate in the Valley, my favorite sidelined househunting blogger, comes off the sidelines tonight to file an update: prices are falling in one of her preferred neighborhoods, and she's still not biting:
"You might remember that back in June I visited a little 3 bed + 2 bath house in Fashion Square (a.k.a 'the house where it all started') that was listed at $825k. When I told the agent that I thought that was way too high, she offered me a little cash back to sweeten the deal. Needless to say, I didn't go for it. Anyhoo, it's been almost six months and the house still hasn't sold. But the agent gave me a call again recently. Yup. She wanted me be the first to know (because, apparently, she still does not read my blog) that the house is currently listed at $694k and: 'there's room to negotiate!'
"The new list price represents a nearly 16% decline over the last six months (assuming you offered to pay list but, given the agent's sales pitch, why would you?). I still think it's too much and wouldn't be surprised if it dipped into the low $600s before it finally moves. And this isn't the tale of one desperate seller either; the whole neighborhood has taken a significant hit in recent months.
"So what does this mean for me? Well, for starters, it means I'm really glad we didn't buy a house this year. It also means that some of the allegedly bubble-proof neighborhoods in the Valley are starting to deflate much faster than the city-wide statistics reveal. But it doesn't mean that I'm going to put in any offers right now or any time soon. The price corrections have only just begun."
Thanks, Kate. Comments? Thoughts? Be polite. Email story tips to lalandblog@yahoo.com.
Whew. Kate in the Valley is back. We thought for a moment we had lost her. (Was is something we said?) Or that maybe she bought a house and decided, "It's none of their business what I paid!" No, she's still looking, and in no rush to buy. Her latest:
"Two months ago I wrote about price reductions in the Fashion Square area of Sherman Oaks so I thought I should get back to you with what the neighborhood currently looks like. As you'll see below, only two homes have sold in this neighborhood since I started watching it. There have been double digit price reductions on plenty of homes but a few sellers are deep in denial and offering no price reductions after one-hundred-plus days on the market. A few new listings obviously disregarded the high number of days on market and considered those ancient listings to be comps because they set their prices accordingly. But, by and large, this neighborhood's listings have gone from a mid-$800k range to a low-$700k range. The high-$600k range seems to be on the horizon because a few listings have recently been reduced to that point.
"I'm currently watching the Northwest corner of Studio City, bound by Coldwater Canyon and the 101, because I think it will be the next to take a nose dive (stay tuned!). But Mr. Kate and I have parked our down money in a high-yield savings account, had the carpets steam cleaned in our month-to-month rental condo, and accepted that we will stay put for at least another six months. I would even be happy to wait another year because I suspect that by then the coveted South of the Boulevard homes might be affordable again. But enough about me! Let's get to the numbers:
Read more Kate cleans the carpets, stays put »
We are always happy when the weekly post from house-hunter Kate in the Valley shows up in our email inbox. We never know what to expect, and we're never disappointed. This week Kate blogs in defense of Zillow. Enjoy:
"I was reading Zillow's discussion boards today, and I happened to click on the 'Zestimates' topic. (Zestimates are home value estimates prepared and presented by Zillow.com). Nearly every one of the over-200 post to this category this month was from an angry seller. These sellers were convinced that a low Zestimate is: (1) categorically wrong; and (2) the main factor preventing them from selling their home. A lot of sellers went so far as to demand that their home be completely deleted from Zillow's database (something that Zillow does not do, by the way).
"Personally, I don't think a stray Zestimate ever kept anybody from buying a home. To the contrary, Zestimates, coupled with the other information available at Zillow, gave me the confidence to bid when I first started my house hunt (before y'all run to the comment section to tell me not to buy a house right now: I know! But try and focus on the topic for a minute. Focus…. Focus….). While Zestimates are automated, and not based on personal inspections and evaluations of individual properties, I find them to be a helpful yard stick. I don't think Zestimates are infallible by any means; if I visit a house and I think it's worth $600k, and it's listed at $600k, I'm not going to walk away because Zillow says it is worth less. Indeed, a cursory review of the site reveals that an unusually low estimate sometimes happens when a home hasn't changed hands for decades and, as a result, the tax basis is a bit lower than the neighbors. But I do think Zestimates are helpful especially when combined with the four-direction aerial views of the home and lot.
"Looking at the aerial maps, you can see (without ever leaving your desk!) how close a home really is to the freeway, whether it's on an alley, close to commercial developments, or on a tree-lined street. You can see how the home is situated on the lot and whether the pool takes up the whole back yard or just a small corner. I will mentally adjust the Zestimate based on these facts. And, after I've visited a home, I might come back and enter additional information I have gained about the home to create a personalized estimate for the property. This information, combined with my own market research, gave me a little more peace of mind. The bidding process is so stressful, a little peace of mind can do a lot cure cold feet. With that in mind, I find it really hard to believe that anybody was about to bid on a house, glanced at a single Zestimate, and just changed their mind and walked away. Indeed, I can guarantee that at least one house hunter was eased into bidding by Zillow."
Thanks, Kate. Comments? Insights? Other -- informed -- opinions of Zillow?
One of the great things about the Internet is that it makes information available to everyone -- if you care enough, you can become an expert. So Kate in the Valley isn't just a house-hunter who blogs; she's an expert on the areas where she wants to live. The chart above is Kate's creation -- it shows home sales in all the neighborhoods she's interested in, most of them peaking in August 2005. Kate's latest:
It seems like everybody is talking about August sales volumes this week, yet I couldn't find anything about the neighborhoods I search. It's frustrating that Los Angeles is treated as a single homogeneous real-estate entity, which it clearly is not. So I did what any frustrated house hunter would do: ran the numbers myself. I ran searches by zip code at MelissaData.com, where they provide a list by month of the number of homes sold and the average price. Their information comes from the local county recorder's office. I ran seven ZIP Codes representing the southern San Fernando Valley: 91604 (Studio City), 91423 (Sherman Oaks East); 91403 (Sherman Oaks West); 91436 (Encino West); 91306 (Encino East); 91356 (Tarzana); and 91364 (Woodland Hills).
What did I find? That about half of these ZIP Codes had peak August sales volumes in 2005 and the remaining ZIP Codes peaked in 2004 (not 2003 like the rest of Southern California). Which makes me think that if I want a house in these neighborhoods (and I do) it will take a little longer here than it might elsewhere in SoCal.
The biggest sales volume decline was in Tarzana, selling a whopping 98 homes in August 2005 and a mere 24 in August 2007 (down 75.5%). Encino West was not far behind, selling 92 homes in August 2005 and 30 in August 2007 ( down 67.39%). Studio City fared the best of the lot, selling 66 homes in Aug 2005 and 41 in August 2007 (down 38.88%).
I also looked at Melissa Data's reported changes in August sale prices over the last six years. Almost all ZIP Codes peaked in August 2006. Surprisingly, the southwestern San Fernando Valley is showing a year-over-year sale price increase; Woodland Hills, Tarzana, and West Encino are all up from last August. The biggest year-over-year sale price decline was in Sherman Oaks West with a 13.22% price cut since August 2006, followed by Studio City with a 12.60% decrease for the same period. It will certainly be interesting to see what volumes are like during the holidays this year.
Graphic by Kate Comments? Thoughts? Insights?
Kate in the Valley is back, watching price reductions like a hawk and trying to make sense of a market that defies easy explanation:
Last week I was talking about how scary the drop in the market was because it seemed to be happening so fast. This week I look around and think it's more like two steps forward, one step back. For example, there's a street in the hills of Sherman Oaks called Contour Drive that has at least three homes for sale. The first two have dropped significantly since they were originally listed:
13545 Contour Dr. (MLS # FR2055214 & F1732673) $478/ sq. ft. Price Reduced: 07/23/07 -- $1.599M to $1.495M Price Reduced: 09/03/07 -- $1.495M to $1.349M (down 15.63%)
13553 Contour Dr. (MLS # F1722523) $389/sq. ft. Price Reduced: 07/12/07 -- $1.025M to $950k Price Reduced: 09/05/07 -- $950k to $895k (down 12.68%)
But the third -- a flip -- came on the market last week at $1.169M: 13566 Contour Dr. (MLS # F1732137) $779/sq. ft.
I've seen all three houses. None of them are fixers and none of them are state of the art. What could be the justification for such dramatic price differences? I cannot guess. And it's not just new listings. I've seen more than a few price increases recently. For example, in Encino, a little house was on the market for 172 days. It went through a lot of price reductions and then they inexplicably raised the price:
15560 Otsego Street (MLS # F1703604) Price Reduced: 04/04/07 -- $875k to $859k Price Reduced: 04/13/07 -- $859k to $829k Price Reduced: 04/22/07 -- $829k to $779k Price Reduced: 06/07/07 -- $779k to $739k Price Increased: 08/30/07 -- $739k to $805k
The same thing happened in North Hollywood:
5101 Strohm Avenue (MLS # : B2100128) Price Reduced: 04/16/07 -- $1,000,000 to $850,000 Price Reduced: 07/18/07 -- $850,000 to $835,000 Price Reduced: 08/07/07 -- $835,000 to $749,000 Price Increased: 08/09/07 -- $749,000 to $950,000
Of course, everybody is saying, "Prices are sticky. It's going to take years for this correction." But I guess I imagined a slow, steady decline, not this spasmodic limping along.
Thanks, Kate. Comments? Insights? Any explanations on why prices rise after being reduced?
Kate is back, still blogging, still looking for the future home of Mr. Kate. This week she explains her current strategy and tells us about the houses she has her eye on. Enjoy:
One of the most common questions I get asked is: "Why haven't you bought a house yet?" The answer to that question changed dramatically since I began my search. At first, it was because the listings in my target neighborhoods and price range were few and far between and (luckily!) I ended up on the losing end of several bidding wars, as you know from one of my earlier posts.
Eventually, people urged me to expand my search area to include neighborhoods north of the 101 where bidding wars were not as common. So, in June, I went looking in an area called Fashion Square. Fashion Square is bound by Hazeltine and Woodman, Magnolia and Riverside, and is named after the adjacent Westfield Shopping Center.
I figured these homes had to be more affordable than homes south of the 101, as they were not in the hills and not walking distance to Ventura Boulevard's restaurants and boutiques. But they weren't. As of June 30, there were 11 homes in this neighborhood listed for sale between $800k and $900k (remember, these are mid-century tract houses we're talking about). I couldn't believe people were paying that much for these homes, so I decided to watch and see who would pony up.
After two months (that's two months of watching these listings, many of these homes have been listed in excess of four months), how many of those original 11 listings do you think sold? Well, one definitely sold. As detailed below, it was an REO that sold for nearly $400k less than its previous recorded sale. One went inactive, and no sale data is available so it seems to have merely expired. Four of the 11 are still priced between $800k and $900k, but two of them have seen at least 8% reductions. And the remaining five have been reduced below $800k. (In fairness, a couple of other homes in this neighborhood came on the market in July and then went inactive, but here again no sale data is available for them and they were not part of the original 11 listings).
Read on below: Kate gets specific about the houses she's monitoring, and the price reductions she's tracking.
Read more Kate watches, waits and fears a falling knife »
Kate in the Valley, who guest-blogs for us about her house-hunting experiences once a week, knows what she likes in a house. She also knows what she doesn't like:
"After seeing scores of homes, I've noticed that certain common features (all within a seller's control) make a big difference in how attractive their home is to me. Below is a list of some features that I find most enticing and most discouraging in a property. It's not an exhaustive list, but it's a fair start.
THE GOOD:
(1) A nice big covered front porch. The vision of Mr. Kate and I spending summer nights sitting on our porch, waving to passing neighbors, is virtually irresistible. If you've put inviting patio furniture and pretty potted plants out, I'm sure to give your house a little extra consideration.
(2) A high quality shaded deck out back for entertaining. On a small tract house, usable outdoor rooms help me forget about the limited square footage but, for an outdoor deck to be usable in the Valley, it really needs to be shaded.
(3) New(er) plumbing, electric, roof, and a/c. It's so nice if you've already done this. I'll pay extra to not have to deal with contractors tromping through my house in the first few weeks that I live there.
(4) Credits. For example, if you have a big ole dead tree in your yard and you do not want to remove it yourself then put a tree-removal credit right in the MLS description. I'll think you are honest for admitting the flaw and reasonable for offering to cover the cost even if you won't take care of the problem yourself. But more importantly, I won't be distracted by the big ole dead tree in the yard when I'm thinking about making an offer on your house."
Read below to find out the no-no's -- what turns Kate off.
Read more The good, the bad, the Valley »
Houses sit on the market, lenders fail, markets fall, hedge funds blow up, but Kate in the Valley keeps on looking for a house. We're glad, because that means she keeps on writing her house-hunting diary. Enjoy.
I've taken the bait and made some rookie mistakes in my house hunt (as y'all know). The bait for Rookie Mistake Numero Uno can be found in tons of MLS descriptions, it reads: "All offers considered" or "Bring all offers." I naively thought this meant: "Seller is willing to negotiate." Ha ha ha! Nothing could be further from the truth. More than once, I was the dummy that that took the bait and submitted an offer right away only to get iced for weeks on end while the listing agent attempted to drum up other bids using my offer as the lure. "I already have one offer, this property is going to move fast!" the listing agent no doubt crowed at every other prospective buyer.
And that statement is, of course, the bait for Rookie Mistake Numero Dos. I thought that "I already have one offer, this property is going to move fast!" meant the house was virtually sold. Yeah, not so much. If the seller actually liked the offer, he'd be in escrow not acting like a barker on the carnival fairway. After getting sucked into this bidding war game a couple of times, I flat out refused to participate. "Oh, you already have an offer in? Okay. Well, I guess it's not the house for me." There's always another house, especially these days.
The bait for Rookie Mistake Numero Tres happens at the open house. The listing agent will ask: "Are you already working with an agent?" This question seems so innocent but if you're fool enough to say you don't have an agent, then you can be sure that this one will hound you day and night until she breaks down your very will to live. The phone calls and emails will be non-stop. After saying that I would consider using one listing agent's services, I turned to leave the house and he literally screamed after me: "I need clients!" Yes. He. Did. An agent in the Fashion Square district, after learning I was unrepresented, ran up the street behind my car flailing her arms because she noticed I didn't leave any contact information on the sign-in sheet. Mr. Kate was stunned. A duo I met in Studio City have been sending me emails for three months that say things like: "We talked to the listing agent on Property X for you… they are willing to take $50k below list!" First off, I have never once responded to any of their emails or seen any properties with them, why on earth would they be talking to listing agents on my behalf? They optimistically sign each email with something like: "We're out there working for you!" No you are not. I just put my name on your sign in sheet, I didn't bloody hire you. I finally started leaving a junk email address that I rarely check on the sign-in sheets; I just couldn't take it anymore. This house hunt definitely has been (and still is!) a learning experience."
Comments? Insights? Be polite. Read Kate's house-hunting blog here.
We knew that Kate in the Valley was a patient house-hunter; this week she tells us, in her weekly diary, where her patience runs very thin: when anyone starts talking about direct aid to homeowners at risk of foreclosure.
"So, earlier this week, I was pretty unhappy about mortgage rates going up even though this is probably necessary to put more downward pressure on housing prices. And, just I was swallowing that bitter pill, I read that Hillary Clinton said she supports a bailout for homeowners with bad loans. This statement pushed me over the edge:
"'The unfortunate fact is, many people have gotten into the mortgage market who are being exploited and abused by boiler-room mortgage-lending operations that are just like selling phony penny stocks or the old traveling salesmen with the snake oil.'
"Cry me a river. First off, how are you going to separate the homeowners who knowingly misrepresented their income to qualify for a loan from those who had no idea that the loan officer plugged in make-believe numbers without their knowledge? Certainly you can't expect me to support the government using my tax dollars to bail out the many people who got into the mortgage market thinking they were going to get away with something by fudging the numbers. I also don't think government aid is necessary when other remedies exist, like suing the mortgage broker for fraud (if in fact a fraud has been committed upon you) or just selling your house.
"And don't tell me about the tragedy of people losing their homes. First off, we are talking about people who bought in the last several years using high-risk loans to fuel spending beyond their means. It's not like they are losing the family farm, the very land that their father and their father's father built up with blood, sweat and tears. It's just a house they lived in for a couple of years – a house they very likely bought with zero down. It's not like an act of God is depriving them of all their worldly possessions; their own fiscal irresponsibility is forcing them to forfeit something that they have almost no investment in anyway. Read more of Kate's anti-bailout rant below.
Read more Chapter 8: Bailout talk riles Kate »
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