With the publication of "The Death of Bunny Munro," Nick Cave has graduated from one-off novelist to staring into the pitiless void of a multi-novel career. Poor guy -- but that’s what you get for not sitting content with your lot as a rock star.
In his first novel, "And the Ass Saw the Angel," (1989) Cave drew upon his inimitable mix of the profane and the biblical that has informed his music with many formidable outfits -- his mainstay act, the Bad Seeds, his early venture, the Birthday Party and, most recently, Grinderman, which will tour next spring in support of a new album.
For his second novel, Cave has fine-tuned his obsessions and delivered an iron-black comedy, sharply observant and secretly brimming with morally alarmed sentiment. It's the tale of Bunny Munro, facing down death after the suicide of his depressed wife. Munro never lived with conscience or care but his final spiral has a darker twist: It threatens to suck in his young, adoring son, Bunny Junior. Munro’s choice of poisons are sex, sex, sex – and anything snortable or swallowable.
Margaret Wappler caught up with Cave by telephone while he was in New York; she called upon the author to explain.
Jacket Copy: How long did it take you to write "The Death of Bunny Munro"?
Nick Cave: First draft took six weeks by hand in a notebook. On a six-week tour, actually, around Europe and America with the Bad Seeds. I wrote it backstage, in hotel rooms and so on.
JC: Wow, you must have an incredible capacity for focusing.
NC: Well, it was a story that I was happy to enter and get inside. To be on tour can be mind-numbingly boring. The actual traveling and the airports and all that stuff. Everything is geared up for those two hours on stage in the evening. It was actually lovely to enter a different world.
JC: How would you characterize the relationship between your music and your writing? Do ideas from one feed into the other?
NC: It’s all done by the same person, but the process is different for sure. The actual process of writing a song is different than writing a novel. Writing a song, of all the things I do, is the hardest and most difficult thing for me to do. But it’s something that I have a real pride about, in that I’ve written a large body of songs. Good ones and bad ones but a lot of them. And I’m pleased with that aspect of things.
JC: What was the first germ of the idea for the book?
NC:John Hillcoat, who directed “The Proposition” that I wrote the script for, asked me to write a second script, which I was really happy to do because it was a real pleasure to do the first one. And we had a successful kind of relationship. So I asked him what he wanted it to be about and he said, I want a film about a traveling salesman.' So both of us went and interviewed some traveling salesmen or people working in that profession. We looked at various kinds of documentaries about these guys and discovered that there was an underworld of womanizing and hard drinking and that kind of thing. I guess that was the initial idea. I think John found these people attractive to make a movie about. And I just took that particular character and blew air into him.
JC: It’s interesting that that’s how Bunny started because the fact that he’s a traveling salesman is a minor thread of the book.
NC: It’s not the thing I’m interested in writing about. That’s what the collaborative effort brought out between me and John. John had certain things that he wanted to film and I had my own interests.
JC: How would you describe the character of Bunny Munro?
NC: I’m not sure I can do that in a few words, but the success of the character for me is that the reader can see something of themselves in him. The character is ultimately monstrous, but they can identify something of themselves in him. Or, in regards to the female reader, they can see evidence of something they’ve suspected all along about the male psyche. I’m getting a strange response from women about the book. It’s been called by some women a great feminist novel. By other ones, pure misogyny. So, who knows.
JC: Was it taxing to write from Bunny’s point of view?
NC: A lot of that Bunny Munro stuff is comic but it was actually quite difficult to write. Not difficult to think of what to write, but to adopt a certain way of thinking. You have to inhabit the character to a degree while you write something. You have to start visualizing the world from his point of view, and he’s got a certain kind of eye for detail. He’s very much obsessed with the physicality of things. It’s a relentless point of view. In that respect, it was difficult. You mention the comedy. I’m sure that helped lighten up Bunny.
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