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Mar Vista: Man, 22, is fatally shot in alley

September 25, 2008 |  3:26 pm

Braylon Williams, a 22-year-old black man, was fatally shot in an alley in the Mar Vista Gardens housing project in the 4800 block of Marionwood Drive about 1:30 p.m. Tuesday, Sept. 23.

Los Angeles Police Department detectives said he was in the alley behind the complex when he was approached from behind by a gunman. The assailant fired a pistol, hitting Williams several times.

Police said the motive for the crime appears related to gang activity. The suspect was described as a Latino man, 18 to 20 years old, of medium height and build, wearing a black sweatshirt. He was last seen running along a flood control fence.

Anyone with information about the crime or the suspect is asked to call Pacific Division homicide detectives at (310) 482-6813.

—Andrew Blankstein

Update:

LAPD officials appealing for the public's help in solving this killing said they believe it is a gang-retaliation shooting. Lt John Romero said Williams was a gang member from outside the Mar Vista Gardens area visiting his girlfriend when he was shot multiple times with a 9-mm pistol. The assailant was described as a 16- to 18-year-old male Latino, about 5-feet-5 and weighing 150 pounds.

—Richard Winton   


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these black on brown crimes need to stop in our communities, it teaches are children to be prejudice against others and it's ok to kill those of another race. We most remember that children only learn what we parents teach them or they are subjected to forgetting they have to attend schools together, live in the same nieghborhoods together.these types of crimes and violence againt each other only demonstrates that we too don't care for the next person(s) of others races but ourselves.We all live in the same communities together we need to try to get along and help clean up our communities, stop the crimes and educate our children on how to love, respect and develope good characteristics about themselves.

here in the mar vista garden the racial tension is bad. the shooting that occurred on september 23, was not gang related it was a hate crime. there is not enough african americans here to form a gang. so while the media and LAPD keep insisting that the incidents that have occurred are gang related they need to accept the fact that this is racial and not gang violence. it is a shame that the african americans that pay rent here have to fear for their lives and not feel safe in their own place on a daily basis.

"The suspect was described as a latino man, medium build and medium height..." The description fits that of about 200,000 people in metro LA. mean what the point?

Finally, something about this in the paper! I think this was my co-worker's daughter's boyfriend, and I have to say, I was puzzled when she told me about it, since I couldn't find a news report anywhere online. Certainly the Times or a local TV station would cover a man being shot point-blank while walking 2 kids home from school, with perhaps a description of how the boy instinctively grabbed his sister to shield her from the gunshots. Especially on the westside.

No. The best you can do is call it gang-related. Certainly minimizes the traumatic experience that the kids and my co-worker's daughter went through. Makes me a bit sick ...

JUST GET IT STRAIGHT THAT IT WAS NOT A RACIALL THING ITS A GANG REALATED SITUATION IM TIRED OF PEOPLE AND THE MEDIA TRYING TO START THINGS WITH IN THE COMMUNITY GET IT RIGHT IT WAS JUST GANG RELATED

BRAYLON I LOVE U SO MUCH.I CANT BELIEVE YOUR GONE.YOU WAS ONLY 22.LIL BRO IAM NEVER GOING 2 4 GET U. ALTHOUGH YOUR LIFE WAS STOLEN FROM U .I PROMISE 2 KEEP YOUR MEMORY ALIVE.RIGHT NOW I AM AT A LOST FOR WORDS,BUT KNOW THAT I LOVE U LI BROTHER. AND TO THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE MY BROTHER WAS NOT IN A GANG.AND WAS KILLED BECAUSE THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN,THAT HURTS THE MOST. JAZZ

BRAYLON WAS MY LITTLE BROTHER HE WAS NOT IN A GANG. HE WAS KILLED BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK.BRAYLON YOU MUST KNOW THAT I WI;LL NEVER 4 GET U LITTLE BRO . JAZZ

I do not live in the Los Angelas area, I an actually from Ohio and my heart goes out to all of you who live with these tragities EVERYDAY and sometimes several times a day. I just do not understand this generation of very angry and valueless people. I cannot even try to imagine a world in which you live in. I read your paper on a daily basis and I cry for some family everyday because of someones nonsense. May God be with all and he does not care what race, color, domination, if your rich, poor, ugly, pretty, dumb, smart.... but he does make us all account for our actions and all of those who dont care now... You will....

Here we go again... People lets not jump to conclusion on whether it was racial or gang, lets catch this person who killed him and take it from there.

Mewho and Keep it Real

you were also the ones crying FOUL and Brown killing Black, when the Jamiel Shaw murder took place and there was a blogger here on Homicide Report who pointed out that if you in fact took some time and investigated you can see he was actually a Blood and hung out with them and it was in fact a GANG MURDER and not a "hate crime".

And yes i know alot of these gangs go after each other due to the hate for one another because of race, but joining the gang for is NOT the answer. We need to stop the Gangs and teach parents how to keep kids out of gangs before we start teaching these kids how to point fingers and blame everything on race.

this was NOT racial it was gang related!!!
so was Jamiel Shaw...investigate it people. DONT start blamin race and "Illegals" its GANGS. Parents teach your kids to stay out of gangs DO YOUR JOB!

I know Mar Vista Gardens. Even though I doubt it, it may or may not have been gang related. But that's besides the point. Being Black in a predominantly Latino neighborhood is sadly a liability. It ever shouldn't be that way. No one should have to feel that their race is a liability.

The guy was only 22, still a kid. I should say he was a man for shielding the little girl with his own body. Such a tragic waste of life.

My condolences to the family.

To the family of Braylon, I'm so sorry about your loss and am praying for you. I heard a rumor years ago about black families being run out of this place because they were hated for the color of their skin. I had hoped it wasn't true.

People in LA need to get together to stop the senseless violence that takes place fairly regularly. Black, brown, white, asian -- who cares? We all live here together. LA is a great place. We just need to make the younger crowd understand that everyone can share the same space. We all should appreciate the gigantic variety of people LA has.

I'm sorry your brother was killed, Jazz. May he RIP. Cherish his memory forever.

The problem with the racial gang wars is the so called shot callers are directing the gangs to commit hate crimes as a form of blackmail,either do what we say or you will not be protected while incarcarated.how can someone direct you or tax you,when you never met this person. we are being killed by cowardly puppets of jail house politics. Prison and the streets are two different life styles.in a real race war only the innocent people suffer.

Braylon i still cant believe your gone its still not true to me.
we just got off the phone with each other talking about what we planned on doing in the future. I will make sure your God daughter knows how GREAT of a person you were. And to Braylons family I am so sorry about your lost he was a great person. Take care

This is to Ruben: You are passing on second, possibly third hand information. You're stating that Jamiel Shaw was a gang member because somebody else said he was. Where is the proof? Is he in the gang book? Does he have a record? Just where are you talking about investigating? This young man was going to school and playing football. He had his future planned out. You are slandering his name on hearsay and it's too bad the family can't sue you. You should have investigated before you made a comment like that. You sound like you are co-signing on Najee Ali who is now spending time in prison. There is a race war going on in some parts of the city, that's a fact. And Mar Vista is definitely one of the areas, it has been for years. We all need to come together and stop all of the nonsense. We are all at risk be it gang or racial. We cannot afford to continue to do nothing, the violence is out of control

Ruben:

You need to get ya info correct bra. Jamiel Shaw was no gang member, he lived in 20's neighborhood but he wasn't gangbangin. I know this for fact, if he was, the bloods would've been shouting him out on this blog like they do every other fallen soldier that gets put on the homicide report. Your saying he was a gang member to try to justify the shooting which is weak. You need to follow your own advice and investigate it a little more. Im from 20's and Jamiel wasn't no gangbanger.

I think it is important to recognize that Mar Vista Gardens is located in the city of Culver City where the surrounding area is picture perfect.

But Mar Vista Gardens, located on Braddock Blvd. on the South Side of Sepulveda is crime infested. The schools located directly across the street from the housing project are Los Angeles Unified School District Schools. Why?

Could it be that the police and Culver City want to be separated from impoverished people? Mmm... Think about it.

The real question is this: Why are African-American families being placed in this area if it is not safe for them? Why weren't grief counselors automatically placed on the campuses of these schools the day after? Why are the police and the Los Angeles Housing Authority dealing with this issue? Why? Our children aren't safe at school if they're not safe at home across the street. So how are they supposed to learn?

Why wasn't his body removed before 6:30 at night as elementary and middle school children and high schoolers walked passed?

Maybe because no one cares. No one cares.

Actions need to take place to stop this from happening again. Los Angeles Police Department, specifically the Pacific Division is irresponsible and careless about how these events effect the lives of school children.

Ruben... I'm going to continue to say that the violence needs to stop and I don't care what color/race one is, if in a gang or not. the violence needs stop for the sake of our children and our communities. There use to be a time when our Granparents could sit on their porch, enjoy a nice sunny day, the kids could ride their bikes or skate up and down the streets, at least that's what I did growing up on the eastside, but now I wouldn't even let my grandmother/father sit by the window inside the house and with grandchildren of my own now, I wish I would let them outside and not in my eyes watch. so you can sum it up to be gangs, racial whatever you want to call it Ruben but I call it senseless and cowardly.

I believe the problem some people are having with this issue stems from a cloudy definition of the term "gang-related". Some people believe that gang-related requires both parties to be in a gang, whereas other's require the incident itself to be in support or against some gang, but not requiring any of the participants to be active members.

Back in junior high school, when someone asked me "What set are you from?", and the response "A union B" didn't satisfy them, then they asked for my ID, phone bill, utility bill or something with my proof of residence so they could determine my correct gang affiliation. While I was not a member of the three active sets that were at the school, there were kids there that tried to be very persuasive in making you define an alliance.

Teacher,

If you are a teacher...some of your questions I'm surprised with. Not that you don't have the right to the question, but why someone with your education doesn't already know the answer(s).

Could it be that the police and Culver City want to be separated from impoverished people? Mmm... Think about it. What is there to think about? And why would this be an issue? How could this be an issue? Did you check the actual city limits? Some of your questions could be answered with just checking the city limits.

Why are African-American families being placed in this area if it is not safe for them? So what you are saying is you want some government entity some where to tell people that they cannot live some where? You want a government entity telling you that because of the color of your skin you are not allowed to live here? You want some government entity or land lord telling you I can't rent to you because you are: fill in the race? That worries me more then me being able to live where I want to and where I can afford to.

Why weren't grief counselors automatically placed on the campuses of these schools the day after? Why would grief counselors be placed at the school when this was not a school issue? Life issues, community issues should be addressed by the community that lives within those areas. And before you write back YES I live in a ghetto, ELA to be exact. As a responsible parent I would expect the parents to "talk" to their kids about what happened. Why would the school bring someone and use resources for something like this? The school, the grief counselors, the teachers can't take care of all of societies ills, the responsibility for raising productive members of society start at home.

Why are the police and the Los Angeles Housing Authority dealing with this issue? Why? If not the Housing Authority and the LAPD who? I'm sure the Housing Authority has an extremely limited amount of anything to do with this case. They are not detectives, they do not have the experience, knowledge, resources nor do they have the authority to investigate murders. If not LAPD who? This happened within the city limits of Los Angeles who would you rather see handle this case?

Our children aren't safe at school if they're not safe at home across the street. So how are they supposed to learn? You are so right on this question...how are they supposed to learn? As soon as you have an answer to this question let me know. I have been asking this question for years and yet NOT enough people who live on these streets, live in these houses or area are willing to give of themselves. SO as soon as you know how to motivate a parent who could careless let me know. Responsibility starts at home, the schools only have these kids for a few hours a day. Society has them for longer periods.

Why wasn't his body removed before 6:30 at night as elementary and middle school children and high schoolers walked passed? The only government entity allowed to move a body is the corner’s office. No one is allowed to move or touch a body once it has been declared dead. I don't know what the circumstances are that delayed the pick up for several hours other then investigation and no one available and maybe even other calls.

Maybe because no one cares. No one cares. You are right again. Very very few people care! Starting with the people in the lives of these kids. Not a parent, not a grandparent, not an uncle, not an aunt, not a cousin. No body!! Again having worked with children for the past almost 20 years and to see first hand the whatever attitude you are right no one cares. Not one person cares enough!! Everyone cares as long as you don't expect anything from them. Mothers, fathers, grandparents, aunts, uncles, anyone and everyone are too busy to make it to back to school night. Everyone is too busy to make sure the kid even get a bowl of cold cereal in the morning before she comes to school, yeah I know no money to buy milk or bread. But for some odd reason, there is always enough money to buy that six pack of beer or cigarettes or money to get nails done or hair done and why is there always enough money to pay for boyfriends dinner?

Actions need to take place to stop this from happening again. Los Angeles Police Department, specifically the Pacific Division is irresponsible and careless about how these events affect the lives of school children. Again what do you suggest be done to stop this from happening again? Because tons of things have been tried. How do you get some kid motivated to go to school, to college to be a productive member of society when NOT one person in the house hold cares? How do you keep some kid motivated past the second grade when dear old mom at home doesn't even ask how was school? Do you have any homework? Is there anything I can help you with? As for the police department not caring how these events affect the lives of the kids in the area? More of them care then you would be willing to admit too. As soon as we as a society teach kids to respect law enforcement officials, the government and each other we will all be better off.

If any one of you guys heard of Aliso Village projects you know what it is. Those who don't research it! I played in Mar vista projects over 10 years ago, and we needed escort in and out of those projects. Those that have not lived it, please don't comment. And those that are deeply sadden, please research and stand up! I'm a victim of being "Black" in L.A. I lived it 15 years of my life, and been shot at over a dozen of times for not what color rag i wore, but the color I was born with. I research once a week on killings in LA, it's a problem.
If you dont believe me, If you're Mexican take a ride to some parts of Compton, If you're Black take a ride to some parts of South Central, and if your Asian some parts of Long Beach is not a great place to park and chill.
This is REALITY! L.A streets! You must listen and understand the silent cries of these victims. There is no right or wrong, illegal or crip. Sur or Nor. They are all victims to these inner city slums! We all should take a step back and look at your color of your skin as secondary and look at the bigger picture that you're HUMAN!

Yo guys,

Please don't associate the Mar Vista Gardens Housing Projects with the "City of Culver City." I work hard and live there. The police in Culver City do a darn fine job keeping these little savages out of our 'hood.

Phillie 213

if he was NOT a gangbanger why did he have it on his MYspace? Why would his own girlfriend (who was on the phone with him during shooting) testify that he did "kick it with them"? Why did the shooter ask "Where you from" ? Why would the shooter admit that he killed him because of gangs?

Look people i am not justifying this murder or trying to slander his name, but GANGS is the problem here NOT race. Gangs have been here long before we have and will continue to be if we do not address them now!

We need to keep kids out of gangs and teach them that joining a gang, even for "protection", is NOT the answer.

Everyone who makes a comment should know that people read them. People outside of Los Angles read this and feel for the neighborhood people can not ride a bike down the street, or sit on their porches at any time they choose. I feel for all of you, but you all should get ready because money is about to get seriously tight for almost everyone in the nation. That means you can't rely on the government to solve the problems because their budgets are about to be cut back. They are not the only ones, but almost everyone who was related Wall Street is going to cut back a LOT. This means you are about to have a serious storm of increases in the types of things Ruben reports. When the economy goes south, the crime goes-up. When the jobless rates go up so to does crime. Please get ready now by reaching out to one another and taking care of one another.

BRAYLON ALTOUGH YOUR SOUL WAS STOLEN FROM US A VOICE WE LOVED SILENCED A VACANT SPACE IN OUR HOMES THAT CAN NEVER BE FILLED HEARTS BROKEN WE NOW RELY ON YOUR MEMORIES TO GET US THRU THIS .I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ARE NEVER COMING HOME LIL BRO I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU BRAYLON.JAZZ

THIS BLOG IS FOR CULVER CITY AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY THIS TIME IT WAS MY 22 YEAR OLD BROTHER NEXT TIME IT WILL BE YOUR 82 YEAR OLD GRANDMA.YOUR SISTERS 12 YEAR OLD SON OR YOUR 2 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER SOME ONE NEED TO STEP UP AND TAKE CARE OF CULVER CITY DIRTY LITTLE SECRETS.

THIS IS TO RUBEN..U DONT KNOW WHAT UR TALKIN ABOUT AND IT WAS INDEED A RACIAL KILLING..DONT COMMENT ON NETHING IF U DONT KNO THE FACTS..MAR VISTA GARDEN HISPANIC DOESNT LIKE BLACKS WHY DO U THINK U SEE MORE HISPANICS THAN BLACKS OUT THERE KUZ THEY DONT FEEL KOMFORTABLE LIVING THERE THERE PUSHED TO MOVE OUT

THE MVG PROJECTS ARE NOT IN MAR VISTA, OR CULVER CITY, THEY ARE IN DEL REY, AN UNINCORPORATED PART OF L.A. ARE CONVICTED FELON GANG MEMBERS ALLOWED TO LIVE IN GOVT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING? HOW DOES THIS MAKE THE COMMUNITY IN AND OUT OF THE PROJECTS SAFER? GOD ONLY KNOWS WHY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING TO CLEAN UP THE PROJECTS. IT IS A TRAGEDY FOR THE FAMILY OF THIS YOUNG MAN WHO WAS MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. IT MAKES NO SENSE.

a yo 213 you dont know what talkin bout it actually was a racist thing he wasnt known out there get the facts first b

i miss you phat boy me and bree please look over her you now are her personal angel

To Keepingitreal:

You wrote "... so while the media and LAPD keep insisting that the incidents that have occurred are gang related they need to accept the fact that this is racial and not gang violence. it is a shame that the african americans that pay rent here have to fear for their lives and not feel safe in their own place on a daily basis..."

Gee whiz. That's how Whites have felt about Blacks forever - and that is a justified reaction, considering Black on White crimes rates. I'm glad the Mexicans are giving ya'll a taste of your own medicine. What goes around comes around.

BRAYLON WILLIAMS GONE BUT NEVER 4 GOTTEN I LOVE YOU UNCLE PHATTY AKA PHAT BOY .......

LOVE NEPHEW
NENO BROWN

hey guys, i personal live in the housing project from 79/97 for long time.marionwood was my hometown it was the projects the people that live thereare nice people there are hones working people. the bad people are the the one around the place. out side the projects.

I love u lil bro forever and always.You are forever in my heart.jazz



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