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Ian McKellen surrounded by evil mutants on 'The View'

November 9, 2009 | 10:58 am

I wish that, just for a moment, Ian McKellen actually possessed some of those nature-bending powers that he wielded in the "Lord of the Rings" and "X-Men" films because it would have been a delight to see him turn the set of "The View" into a charred crater.

The esteemed 70-year-old thespian was a guest on the ABC daytime show last week and the footage is excruciating to watch. I have to say I didn't know much about this show beyond its reputation for shrill banality but, after watching this, I'm discouraged by the fact that this a nationally aired show. (Thanks by the way to Jay West for sending me the link.)

McKellen was on to promote "The Prisoner," the new six-episode AMC series that begins Nov. 15, but he was met with a quartet of hosts who had their own flaky agendas. One of them had snippy and random things to say about British healthcare, which she obviously knows nothing about. Another asked McKellen: "Do you think you're creepy?" and later gushed about his film performance as "Mag-Netto." Must be a big fan. And then (at the 4-minute mark) the million-dollar question from a croaky Whoopi Goldberg: "Now, are you coming back to 'Harry Potter'?" Uhhh...

McKellen, who has never been to Hogwarts, said that he expects that he will be back as Gandalf in "The Hobbit" films but added that he doesn't have a contract yet and, with a small aside about that, hinted that the dealings might not be a slam dunk. He also pointed out with some good cheer that after he went public as a gay actor his film career took off, which runs counter to traditional Hollywood career wisdom. Did anyone on the show sense that there might an interesting follow-up question on one of these points? Nope. Goldberg thought it better to ask if there would be any black Hobbits in the new movies. Oh, right, well, there you go. 

All this reminds me of an old saying: You know the worst part of having your head up your own backside? "The View." 

-- Geoff Boucher

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Photo: Ian McKellen as Gandalf (not Dumbledore). Credit: New Line 


READER POLL: 'The Hobbit' will triumph but 'X-Men' and 'Pirates' franchises should quit now

October 12, 2009 |  9:43 am

FOUR FRANCHISES AT A CROSSROADS

Franchises 

Talk about heroic: Four film franchises, one decade, more than $10 billion worth of theater tickets sold.

And more than that, in their very best moments, each of these franchises shown above delivered sparkling adventure and escapism for moviegoers. Now, though, with the decade winding down and all four franchises sitting a nice tidy trilogy, the question must be asked: Isn't three the magic number? Do we really need a fourth movie from any of these aging popcorn enterprises? Clearly, all of them will be written up in the Hollywood history books but right now the indelicate must be asked: "How can we miss you if you won't leave?"

Last week we gave you an in-depth report on this quartet of mega-franchises and their quests for a fourth visit to theaters. We told you how "The Hobbit" must escape the the towering shadow of "The Lord of the Rings," while Sam Raimi's "Spider-Man" series needs to get back to its roots to thrive. We also explained that the "X-Men" future looks especially uncertain while the "Pirates of the Caribbean" franchise might be facing a one-man mutiny with Johnny Depp's distress over recent changes at Disney.

We also put the question to you: Which of these franchises is making a mistake by adding a fourth film?

You made it clear that "The Hobbit," with director Guillermo del Toro taking over with a new vision, is in a class by itself -- the other franchises may tack on new editions to cash in, but fans are expecting nothing but magic from Del Toro's arrival in Middle-earth. The remaining three franchises got a frostier reception. For five days last week, more than half of our reader voters named "Pirates" as the cinematic series that should walk the plank. Over the weekend that changed and (with a lot of late-arriving Depp fans?) the surging "X-Men" became the top choice as a franchise hitting bottom.

It's not too late, though, we'll take votes for the next 48 hours before declaring our, uh, winning loser. In the meantime, thanks for reading, commenting and voting.

-- Geoff Boucher

  

VOTE: WHICH FRANCHISE IS MAKING A MISTAKE WITH A FOURTH FILM?

   

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Photos at top, from left, Ian McKellen in "Lord of the Rings," Tobey Maguire in "Spider-Man," Halle Berry in "X-Men: The Last Stand" and Johnny Depp in "Pirates of the Caribbean."  Credits from left: New Line Cinema, Sony Pictures, 20th Century Fox, Walt Disney Studios. Bottom photo of Sam Raimi by Ken Hively / Los Angeles Times


Can 'The Hobbit' escape the towering shadow of 'The Lord of the Rings'?

October 6, 2009 | 10:27 pm

FOUR FRANCHISES AT A CROSSROADS: PART ONE

This week we're taking a look at four major trilogies from this decade that are looking to add a fourth film despite substantial challenges -- not least among those challenges the skepticism of moviegoers who may wonder if some of these Hollywood vehicles are running on empty. You can find the other three installments of the series right here.

Gandalf 

"LORD OF THE RINGS/THE HOBBIT"

The story so far: Director Peter Jackson's majestic and magical interpretation of J.R.R. Tolkien's epic is arguably the gold standard now for fantasy-film franchises. The "Rings" film trilogy piled up a staggering $2.92 billion in worldwide box office (plus more than $3 billion in DVD and others ancillary sales) and also pulled off a magic trick that has eluded the "Star Wars" or "Harry Potter" franchises -- it cast a spell over  voters in the marquee Oscar categories of best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay.

Guillermo del Toro gets a grip The challenge:

The bad news is Jackson won't be directing this time. The good news, though, is that Guillermo del Toro is his handpicked successor. After the twitchy, unsettling and singular fairy visions of the Oscar-winning "Pan's Labyrinth," there's plenty of reason to get excited about the Guadalajara native's mighty imagination coming to bear on, say, the black forest of Mirkwood. Still, "The Hobbit," published in 1937, is considered by some to be Tolkien's literary warm-up act for the his 1950s "Rings" epic, which is more complex, darker and intended for an older audience. Also, off the screen, del Toro has the daunting task of following the crescendo success of "The Return of the King," which on its own racked up $1.1 billion to go with those Academy Awards. The stakes are high: "The Hobbit" will be told over two films with a combined budget north of $300 million.

The status: Work is well underway in New Zealand on "The Hobbit," although principal photography won't begin until April. Major casting announcements are imminent (Ian McKellan, above, is already in, as are Andy Serkis and Hugo Weaving, according to recent comments by del Toro in a BBC interview) and there will be plenty of time for fans to debate them -- the first of the two films isn't due until December 2011, with the sequel to follow in December 2012. Jackson is on board as co-writer and executive producer and, by all accounts, his working relationship with del Toro is a supportive and upbeat one. And, miraculously, the film seems to have finally escaped the dreaded pits of litigation; an ugly dispute with the heirs of the late Tolkien was settled last month and Jackson's bitter, scorched-earth battle with New Line Cinema was somehow resolved in 2007 and now seems like a fading memory -- well, at least to all of us who didn't pay attorney fees.

The prediction: This Friday, when del Toro blows out the candles to celebrate his 45th birthday, I doubt his wish will have anything to do with the box-office performance of "The Hobbit." This is a filmmaker driven by the demands of his imagination, not studio expectations. It's a good thing that del Toro will not obsess about matching "Rings" in commercial success because there's no way it's going to happen. I wonder if these films can match the massive swoon and battlefield sweep of Jackson's trilogy, and while Tolkien fans will likely love them, I suspect that a significant percentage of the American moviegoing public has some Middle-earth fatigue at this point. As for the true Tolkien devotees and fantasy diehards, I'm guessing they become gleefully divided over the Jackson trilogy versus del Toro double feature and inherit a decade of a debate like the Radiohead fans who still bicker about "Kid A" and "OK Computer."

-- Geoff Boucher

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Four major franchises look to make a fourth film, but should they?

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QuantcastPhoto at top is Ian McKellen in "Lord of the Rings," Credit: New Line. Guillermo del Toro photo from Universal. Photos at bottom are McKellen again, then Tobey Maguire in "Spider-Man," Halle Berry in "X-Men: The Last Stand" and Johnny Depp in "Pirates of the Caribbean." Credits from left: New Line Cinema, Sony Pictures, 20th Century Fox, Walt Disney Studios.


Four major franchises look to make a fourth film -- but should they? [Updated]

October 5, 2009 |  7:04 am

Franchises

They are four of the biggest franchises in Hollywood history and each is at a major crossroads. This week the Hero Complex will look at "The Lord of the Rings," "Spider-Man," "X-Men" and "Pirates of the Caribbean" and size up their future as they attempt to move past their original trilogies and into a new decade.

Tuesday "Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit": How can Guillermo del Toro possibly match up to Peter Jackson's magical conquests ($2.92 billion in global box office and 17 Oscars including best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay)? At least he has Jackson on his side ...

Wednesday "Spider-Man": Director Sam Raimi and stars Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst are back for more and that's no surprise considering "Spider-Man 3" had the highest-grossing opening weekend of the wall-crawling films -- and went on to make $891 million worldwide. Still, the last film got decidedly mixed reviews, and some fans are wondering if the magic is gone.

Thursday: "X-Men": The summer 2000 release of Bryan Singer's "X-Men" truly signaled the beginning of the modern era of superhero cinema and its new ambitions. While the 2006 release of "X-Men: The Last Stand" led to commercial success ($459 million), the hero-snuffing plot, the finality of the title and those cruel reviews all suggested the run was over. Now, though, producers are looking for a return to the mutant chronicles...

Friday "Pirates of the Caribbean" : The fourth film, "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides," hits theaters in 2011, but after a shake-up at the top of Walt Disney Studios, star Johnny Depp said he is feeling glum about the project. If he's not excited, should you be?

Check back to read them all, but in the meantime, give us your opinion: Which franchise would be making the biggest mistake by continuing past the original trilogy? Vote below ...

-- Geoff Boucher

Photos from left, Ian McKellen in "Lord of the Rings," Tobey Maguire in "Spider-Man," Halle Berry in "X-Men: The Last Stand" and Johnny Depp in "Pirates of the Caribbean."  Credits from left: New Line Cinema, Sony Pictures, 20th Century Fox, Walt Disney Studios.

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Daniel Radcliffe in 'The Hobbit'? 'Thanks, but no thanks,' says the star

August 18, 2009 |  5:57 am

EXCLUSIVE 

Daniel Radcliffe looking up

Who will star as Bilbo Baggins in "The Hobbit"? You can cross one name off the list: Daniel Radcliffe, of "Harry Potter" fame, says he has no interest in any new project with "any wizards in it."

"I'd have to say, 'Thanks but no thanks,' not that anyone has asked me," the 20-year-old actor told me last week in England. "Honestly, I don't think they would want me anyway, it's just too close. Whatever I do next, I don't think there will be any wizards in it!"

Radcliffe is now at work on the seventh and eighth films in the "Potter" franchise, and by the 2011 release of the last film in the series, he will have spent more than a decade inhabiting the role of the orphaned boy wizard. The sixth "Potter" film, released in the U.S. on July 15, is closing in on $830 million in worldwide box office. The collective franchise is now north of $5.3 billion in global box office.

Radcliffe is one of several names that has popped up again and again as fans chew on the casting challenge for "The Hobbit," the two-film companion piece to the massively successful "Lord of the Rings" franchise. Oscar-winning "Rings" director Peter Jackson is back as a producer this time, and Guillermo del Toro ("Pan's Labyrinth," "Hellboy") is in as director. "The Hobbit" is planned as a $300-million project with releases in 2011 and 2012.

In a recent reader poll here at the Hero Complex, there were more than 5,700 votes cast, and Radcliffe came in third behind James McAvoy ("Atonement") and David Tennant ("Doctor Who") as the best choice to play the itinerant Bilbo. Radcliffe says he casts his own ballot for Scottish actor McAvoy. 

"James McAvoy is fantastic. I think he should play it. I've done the fantasy-film thing. Actually, so has he, with the 'Chronicles of Narnia,' of course. But I've done it for longer. He can take over. I'm done. I don't think anybody involved in that would want me to, either."

-- Geoff Boucher

Photo: Warner Bros.

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Peter Jackson: Movie fans are 'fed up with the lack of original ideas'

July 28, 2009 |  5:29 pm

On the eve of last week's Comic-Con International, I spoke to Peter Jackson about oppressed aliens, Hobbits and, most interestingly, the proliferation of remakes, sequels and adaptations in Hollywood. The interview was for a lengthy Los Angeles Times Calendar cover story previewing the San Diego expo. Only a few quotes were used in that piece; here's the full Q&A... -- Geoff Boucher

Peter Jackson into the woods GB: Welcome to Southern California or, as we like to call it, the fiery surface of the sun... 

PJ: Yes, it’s very hot. I’ve just come from winter in New Zealand. My God, It was like stepping into a furnace yesterday. The hot wind coming off the concrete was just appalling.

GB: I saw the trailer for "District 9" and I'll be watching the whole film soon. It's looks quite compelling. You must be excited to be bringing it to San Diego.  

PJ: I think one of the good things with that movie is that no one is expecting anything really. So I think one of the advantages we’ve had is we’ve sort of came out as a complete surprise which was actually quite good, really. It wasn’t really planned that way but we quietly made it down to South Africa and New Zealand sort of under the radar. It was never a film that people knew about until it suddenly started getting the trailers and the posters started going around and then it was like, 'Oh my God this is a weird, little strange film.' "

GB: "District 9" is a bit of a rarity in the Comic-Con sector in that it's not an adaptation of a comic book or a toy, it's not a remake or a sequel, it's not based on an old television show....  

PJ: Yeah, I guess so. I mean I guess Comic-Con in a way celebrates popular culture so its emphasis is always going to be on the culture that exists, I guess, which is clear enough. But I suppose it covers everything doesn’t it? It covers movies and TV and it’s obviously become a place where if you’ve got something new it’s a good place to expose it to the fans.

GB: Certainly, it's a place to introduce the new and celebrate the past, but I suppose what I was suggesting is that these days it seems difficult to make a big special-effects film unless it's based on some pre-existing, known quantity in pop-culture, such as  a novel, comic book, video game, TV show, toy line or previous movie. You look at the Harry Potter films, "Iron Man," "Star Trek," "Transformers"...  

PJ:I mean, personally I think that’s one of the most depressing things about the film industry generally today. The writers and directors should be blamed just as much as the studios because really everything seems to be a remake or adapting a 1970s TV show that was never particularly good. Why anyone thinks that it would be a good feature film now, you know, goodness knows why. And I guess it’s easy to say it's security that you know a studio is only prepared to put $150 million or $200 million into something if it’s a known quantity. But at the same time I’m also aware that audiences are getting fed up with the lack of original ideas and original stories. And if you look back to the great days of "Star Wars" and "Indiana Jones" and those sorts of movies, they weren’t based on TV shows, they weren’t based on comics. They were inspired by them and they had DNA in them which came from years of Flash Gordon and various things in the past but nonetheless they were original. And yet we seem to be incapable as a general industry, which includes not just the studios but the filmmakers and writers and directors, we seem to be incapable of doing that now for some reason. It’s a little bit depressing. But hopefully it’s a cycle. Everything in the film business tends to be cyclic and hopefully this all drains itself out in a couple years and we’ll be back into original stories again.

District 9

GB: I think there's also a sense now that special effects have finally made it possible to successfully adapt the great past works in literature that couldn't be realized visually on a screen in the past, such as your own "Lord of the Rings" series, "Alice in Wonderland" and the Narnia films. Those sort of properties are a bit different than making a movie about a bestselling toy... 

PJ: There are perennial stories like "Alice in Wonderland" and Sherlock Holmes and those sorts of things, which have been around since almost as long as film, and Frankenstein is another one. They’re perennial favorites, which get remade every 20 years and that’s OK. We almost expect that but it is really the making and putting huge resources into something that was never that good in the first place, which I guess nonetheless is a brand name. And I guess one of the most cynical ones is when people can take toy lines and turn them into films. To some degree I was very dubious of the "Pirates of the Caribbean" idea -- taking a theme park ride and turning into a film -- even though they seemed to end up being quite fun films.

GB: That's true, although "Country Bears" and "Haunted Mansion" suggest that the rest of the theme park might be best left alone. Can you talk a bit about "District 9" and how you came to the project as producer?

PJ: Well I came to it because Neill Blomkamp, the director, and I got to know each other when we were supposed to be making "Halo" together, with me producing it and he directing it, and that movie didn’t happen. It’d been about three or four months in prep and we were working on the screenplay and he was in New Zealand where the production was going to be based and he was working with the visual-effects guys and doing lots of maquettes and lots of production design and conceptualizing.



Then the studio didn’t want to go ahead and make it and they started sort of arguing amongst themselves. It was a co-production between Fox and Universal and so the thing kind of imploded and fell apart. We felt sorry for Neill because we’d offered him the job as director and we’d spent quite a few months working on it and it’s pretty traumatic when a film falls apart, even though we saw it coming a little bit ahead of time. It's a pretty gut-wrenching thing because it happens when you’ve spent three or four months on a project and you’re kind of emotionally committed to that project, so there is emotion involved and it gets pretty tough.

So we just felt terrible for Neill and thought, 'My God, thisis his introduction to the world of feature filmmaking?' He’d only done commercials and short films and then this happened, which we felt responsible for. We were supposed to look after him and nurture him and put him through this process and instead he’s gone through hell. We felt terrible and obviously we still felt totally believing in his abilities as director. But they didn’t want to make it and there’s nothing we could do. We don’t own the 'Halo' franchise. We can’t raise the money somewhere else. It’s their property, they’ve got the license for it. So the way to avoid this [happening again] is to do something original, to do it at a lower budget, finance it independently, and not finance it through a studio. You know, there are ways of avoiding it. We came up with the idea for 'District 9.'

GB: The film is an expansion on Blomkamp's 2005 short film, "Alive in Joburg," correct? That was a six-minute, documentary-style film about extraterrestrials living a slum life in South Africa...

Peter Jackson PJ:Yes, is based on one of Neill’s "Alive in Joburg." Because he grew up in South Africa, he had witnessed the end of the apartheid era and all the ugliness that came with apartheid and also the difficulties that the country’s gone through since then. That was his life and I thought it was really terrific; often young directors make their first movie based on popular culture. They don’t base it on something that they’ve actually experienced. They base it on something they read or a comic book that they liked or a TV show they liked. But I thought it was really neat that Neill was affected by apartheid to the degree that he felt he had something to say about it through aspects of it being used in a genre film. And so we financed the development of it ourselves. My partner and I just paid for the development of the project out of our own pocket and he went to South Africa. He shot some test film of his friend Sharlto Copley, who’s not a professional actor as such. He’s an old buddy of Neill’s ... they used to know each other when they were young and Neill wanted Sharlto to be the lead in the film. And he’s actually really, reallygreat. You’ll see that for yourself when you see the film. But we’d never met Sharlto so we sent Neill to South Africa to shoot a little 10-minute test of Sharlto and to shoot some more South African stuff just to sort of inspire the story. And then he came back and we wrote a script with him -- or, more precisely, he did the script and we sort of helped him and advised him with the structure and stuff. And then it was all go and we raised the money through QED, an independent finance company. And it all happened quietly and below the radar.

GB: That's an interesting point you make about a tendency of new filmmakers to celebrate material they love as opposed to creating something entirely new. I suppose it makes sense that homage and craft are less elusive than unique personal voice...  

PJ: I can understand it because when you’re a young kid or a young adult and you’re wanting to make a film -- and this is pretty much my story too -- you tend to interpret. To be an original is probably the hardest quality to find if you’re a young filmmaker. Everything you want to do is based on some level on something you’ve already seen and obviously you either want to remake some favorite film or bring something you love to the screen, such as a comic book. I grew up wanting to do a new vision of "King Kong." I tried to do a remake of "King Kong" when I was about 12 years old on a Super 8. So that was sort of a long-held dream of mine. I was inspired by the great [Ray] Harryhausen movies and I did a lot of stop motion on a Super 8; it's other people's movies that inspire your direction in the career and the reason you want to be a filmmaker is the fact that you love these films so therefore you’re heavily inspired by them. You tend to want to make your movies based on something you’ve seen and then you get a little bit older. Sometimes it takes a few years until you feel enough confidence to be a bit more original. You are open to try things out that are not based on things you’ve seen, but come from ideas you’ve got in your head. It does take a certain degree of self-confidence to get to that place and a lot of young directors don’t have that and I understand that. But Neill, I mean when you see "District 9," what you will see is a very original and particular vision for a movie. He didn’t want to shoot it like a traditional drama. He didn’t want the visual effects to be pretty and intricate. He wanted a sort of down-and-dirty documentary style. He wanted to have a raw energy about it. That’s one of the qualities Neill has -- he’s an original thinker, which is terrific.

GB: I spoke to Guillermo del Toro recently and was reminded how delightful he is. There's such great excitement about "The Hobbit" films that he will be directing to add to the canon of your "Lord of the Rings" films. The fact that you are producing those films and are making your first trip to Comic-Con, there are lots of rumors that you might announce some news about the casting for "Hobbit"...   

Viggo Mortenson and Peter Jackson 

PJ: No, not unless I get kidnapped and tortured for that information! I’m there really pretty much to support "District 9." We made a decision that Guillermo and I talked about and we talked about it with the studio as well, and decided that on anything to do with "The Hobbit" ... it was too early. We decided that every time someone sticks a microphone in our faces and says, "Is there anything to say?" that we'd always just answer 'No, no it’s too soon, too soon." But when we want to release our first real information or our first imagery, we’ll figure out a way to do that. But we literally aren’t there yet. We’re still working on the scripts, and Guillermo’s still doing a lot of conceptual design. We’re exploring ideas. There’s no final designs, necessarily, that we want to share with anyone yet. We haven’t cast a single person in the movie yet. Obviously we have hopes that some of the existing actors from "Lord of the Rings" will come back. The ones that we need for "The Hobbit," we’re hoping we’ll get them back. But deals haven’t been done with any of the new actors that we will need. We haven’t yet made any offers to anybody. So there isn’t really anything to say. I imagine at next year’s Comic-Con it’ll be a little different. I would imagine because at next year’s Comic-Con we will have been shooting for eight or nine months, so I’m sure that there will be something cool then. We’re looking forward to that. We decided to get the screenplays finished first and then, because some of the casting, and particular for the dwarf characters, is pretty much dependent on the personalities and the type of characters they are. So we thought we’d just get the script written and make our decisions on the characters based on the script, and then we can go out and cast the right people.

GB: It's pretty astounding that you haven't been to San Diego before this year... 

PJ: Every time that Comic-Con’s happened I’ve been busy and it’s mainly because of the release of the "Lord of the Rings" films and "Kong" always happened in December. They were always December movies so at this time of the year I was often shooting pick-ups because I used to like doing three of four weeks of pick-up shooting during post-production, which always used to happen around July, and so I got locked into a schedule of never really being available to come over. I used to shoot little greetings, videos and things … this is the first time I’ve ever actually been able to come over. I’m looking forward to it. Don’t quite know what to expect because everyone says it’s a lot of fun. I mean the trouble is, the thing I’d like to do at Comic-Con -- and I really wouldlove to do it more than anything -- is just go shopping and buy some model kits, because I still collect and make them and paint them and I’m sure there’d be some great ones there. But I just know there’s no way I could actually do that. It’s a shame actually. I’m sure that’d be the brilliant, the perfect place in the world to buy some new kits. I do have someone who’s going to go around and photograph kits for me. The other alternative was to dress up in a stormtrooper costume. I don’t think I’d have the time to do that, unfortunately. It is tempting. Tell people that the nearest stormtrooper could be me.

-- Geoff Boucher

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CREDITS: Top: Peter Jackson in 2004/Lawrence K. Ho-Los Angeles Times. Second photo: "District 9" image/Sony Pictures. Third photo: Jackson in 2006 at Golden Globes/ Mark J. Terrill -- Asociated Press. Bottom: Viggo Mortensen and Jackson on the set of "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King"/New Line Productions.


Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro decade: 'The Hobbit' director is just getting started

July 1, 2009 |  7:50 am

One of the gentle souls in the movie business is Guillermo del Toro, and I always look forward to my interviews with him. This is a longer version of my latest story on Del Toro, which is scheduled to run Thursday on the cover of the Los Angeles Times Calender section. 

The Hobbit Fantasy and horror fans, prepare yourself for the Decade of Del Toro.

On the far side of the globe, in New Zealand, filmmaker Guillermo del Toro is now in his seventh month of labor on “The Hobbit,” a $300-million epic that will be told over two films in 2011 and 2012. But you can also find the Guadalajara native on the shelf of your local bookstore with his just-released debut novel, “The Strain,” the opening installment of a vampire trilogy he already has mapped out.

That’s only the beginning. The 44-year-old Del Toro, who was nominated for an Oscar for the dark fairy tale “Pan’s Labyrinth” and showed his crowd-pleasing sensibilities with the “Hellboy” films, also has plans to reanimate some musty and monstrous literary classics. He plans to make a “Frankenstein” film as well as an adaptation of  H.P. Lovecraft’s epic “At the Mountains of Madness,” a project he breathlessly refers to as “my obsession.”

He would seem to be a full plate but, interviewed by phone recently, he chuckled and added another project to the pile: “I think after ‘The Hobbit,’ my next project may actually turn out to be ‘Drood,’ ” he said, referring to the 2008 novel by Dan Simmons that presents Charles Dickens at the center of an occult mystery in 1860s Victorian London. Those three post-“Hobbit” projects are all for Universal, which also has hopes that Del Toro will continue his library-card approach to filmmaking by taking on “Slaughterhouse-Five,” Kurt Vonnegut’s surreal antiwar tale of time travel.

If you’re keeping track, that would have Del Toro tied up well past 2015 and perhaps into 2017. He also is  flirting with several other projects (“Pinocchio,” “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde” and a third “Hellboy” film have Drood been mentioned at various times) but perhaps only as a producer,  as with the acclaimed 2007 Spanish ghost story, “The Orphanage.” He also wants to write more novels and to join in the increasingly popular quest to discover the land of interactive 21st century storytelling, which lies somewhere between Hollywood films and video games as we know them today.

It’s a dizzying career plan for the father of two (his wife and daughters have moved to New Zealand for “The Hobbit”), but in conversation, it’s clear the cheerful storyteller is motivated by his humble, lifelong passion for genre entertainment – he wants to visit the worlds of Tolkien and Shelley, not take them over.

“I love what I do and I feel honored to do it, quite honestly,” Del Toro said.

Right now, no venture has him more enthused than “The Strain,” the 401-page novel that was co-written with Chuck Hogan and released in hardcover this month by William Morrow. The book has gotten generally good reviews (and peer blurbs, too, with novelist Clive Cussler gushing that it “soars with spellbinding intrigue”) and fulfills the earliest ambition of Del Toro. As a boy in Mexico, he  dreamed of being an author long before filmmaking captured his heart. He already has found one major benefit of being a novelist – the absence of Hollywood machinations.

“I have written or co-written 15 screenplays and I have only seven movies,” said Del Toro. The strain “I find it frustrating when you write a screenplay and it lives, but you don’t get it produced – which is a lottery – it exists in a limbo that does not allow it to become public. A filmmaker will never be known by the movies he left in the drawer. Unlike a musician, a painter or a poet, nobody is going to open a box after I’m gone and say, ‘Oh, look, another great movie that he didn’t make.’ ”

“The Strain” presents an unsettling tale of a vampiric virus on the loose in New York City. It was about four years ago that the story started taking shape in Del Toro’s imagination and his inspiration was a surprising one.

“I was watching ‘The Wire’ on cable and I was addicted to it,” the filmmaker said. “I really felt caught up in this idea of doing a procedural, a limited cable series, which married the ideas of biology, of anatomy, of vampirism and evolved through the seasons into the spiritual and mythological aspects of the theme – and always with the everyday details and prosaic settings, and the rhythms of a procedural.”

The plan at first was to present “The Strain” as a television series, limited to three seasons, and Del Toro was gripped with excitement as he got deeper into the tale.

“I prepared a ‘bible’ of the three seasons and went to the network that I had a deal with, which was Fox. They read the bible and listened to the pitch with the opening scene of the 747 stopping mysteriously on the runway at JFK and the mystery that followed, and I was very happy with it.”

And how did the network respond? “They said two things: It’s too expensive, first of all, and what we would really love is a vampire comedy. That was my first and only encounter with television. I retreated quickly.”

Fox later aired a somewhat similar sequence to the airport tarmac scene that opens “The Strain” with the series premiere last year of “Fringe,” the science fiction show from the team of J.J. Abrams, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman (the same collective behind this summer’s “Star Trek”). Was that more than a coincidence?

“Knowing J.J.’s imagination — and perverse imagination — I can only chalk it up to the fact that we all seem to walk on a thin line of ideas, one after the other,” Del Toro said. “But when it first was raised, when I heard how ‘Fringe’ opened, I did get a jolt of recognition. Que sera, sera.”

Guillermo del Toro gets a grip Ever the horror scholar, Del Toro said he drew inspiration from Bram Stoker’s “Dracula” but not in the predictable cape-and-fangs way.

“I was trying to re-create the spirit of Stoker’s ‘Dracula’ back in the time it was written,” Del Toro said. “And what I mean is it was a very procedural novel. It was an epistolary novel – it was all written in letters, documents and recordings. It utilized cutting-edge technology for the time with typewriters and voice recorders. It was very much supposed to be ‘on right now’ for readers except now it’s  contemplated as a classic. At the time, it was a very vibrant, almost Michael Crichton approach to the theme. It was a marriage of the old European lore and the modern.”

There’s a surge in vampires in pop culture right now, a sort of crimson wave of interest, with “True Blood” pumping up the ratings on HBO and a second “Twilight” film due later this year. The Swedish bloodsucking romance “Let the Right One In” was a hit at the Tribeca Film Festival last year, and an English-language version will be released next year. There’s also talk of film revivals for both “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” and “Dark Shadows.”  And, on cable and home video, “30 Days of Night” and the “Underworld” films are still in circulation, while bookstores have replaced their “Harry Potter” sales with the melodramatic swoon of Stephenie Meyer’s “Twilight” titles.

“They never go away, it’s a staple in human imagination – the idea of the self-consuming, cannibalistic monster,” Del Toro said. “The consumption of our essence by a human monster lends itself to so many variations. The romantic vampire is right at the Big Bang of the myth in literature. And so is the brutal depiction of the undead corpse that needs to feed, which is the most horrifying one. The romantic one is Slaughterhouse-Five perfectly valid and has produced really good pieces, but that’s not the one I was hooked on as a kid. I was hooked on the idea of an undead creature inhabited by an eternal spirit that hungers for your life. That scared the bejesus out of me.”

The vampires of “The Strain” are no emo pretty boys, not with skin that, on close inspection, reminds one young human character of a “pickled pig fetus” he saw back in science class.

“That’s a scene from the second novel,” Del Toro said with a satisfied giggle. "The idea is to keep reminding people that these are undead things. To start with biology and then also help the audience make sense of all the vampire traits that they already know.”

Don’t expect to see “The Strain” as a film series at any point – Del Toro said it’s not just written for that sort of storytelling — but he is intrigued by the idea of a pay cable series if that ever presents itself. Wouldn’t that be treading too close to the Louisiana turf of “True Blood”? That doesn’t seem to bother Del Toro, and considering his career bravery, that’s no surprise. 

In nine months, he will begin shooting “The Hobbit,” and all he has to do is match the Tolkien achievement of Peter Jackson, the “Lord of the Rings” director whose three films pulled in more than $2.9 billion at the box office worldwide and collected 17 Oscars, including one for best picture and another for director. (Jackson is back as producer on “The Hobbit” and said last year that he “cannot think of a more inspired filmmaker to take the journey back to Middle-earth.”)

Del Toro’s future projects also will be judged against potent history. Vonnegut used the word “flawless” when talking about director George Roy Hill’s 1972 adaptation of “Slaughterhouse,” and recent revivals of Dr. Frankenstein’s patchwork man (“Van Helsing” and the Kenneth Branagh-directed “Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein”) haven’t stirred moviegoers or come close to the towering 1930s work of Boris Karloff and director James Whale.

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“Everything I’m working on is something I love,” Del Toro said of his deep list of projects. “On ‘Frankenstein,’ I think my version would be unique. People forget that Shelley’s creature was an undead mass of flesh and bone. It’s unholy and lumbering not because it wants to be a monster but because it once had a soul and is now looking for it. It’s a profound mediation of man abandoned by his creator in a world he doesn’t understand. It has rarely been explored as such on film. The novel has not been filmed, in my opinion, and I have a very concrete approach, but it would ruin it of I told you.

"I also love this novel ‘Drood’ that deals with Dickens in a very strange way and his relationship with [fellow author] Wilke Collins, and it uses a resource that is used beautifully in literature by people such as Nabakov but it is not very often in film, which is the unreliable narrator.”  

As for “The Hobbit,” Del Toro is in the midst of intense pre-production, doing work with models, script pages, set blueprints and thousands of decisions on details.

Asked about the film and what he wants to avoid with it, Del Toro said: “What I want to do is make the best movie I have ever done. What I want to avoid is to make some fastidious tracing of lines that were established by the ‘Lord of the Rings’ trilogy. We’re trying to be respectful of it, and what was shown in the trilogy is canon, but we are gleefully exploring new creatures, new set pieces, new territory and new avenues.

"As with everything, there is always something new to get excited about.”

-- Geoff Boucher

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Photo, above: Guillermo Del Toro with "Hellboy" hand. Credit: Egon Endrenyi / Universal Pictures.

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Taking the Hobbits to Isengard

February 17, 2009 |  8:13 am

We've been having a "Lord of the Rings" film festival at my house and my daughter says that's a good enough reason to show you this funny flashback, one of her You Tube favorites...

Isn't that precious...

-- Geoff Boucher

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Guillermo del Toro: 'Swamp Thing is one of the last Holy Grail projects'

November 12, 2008 |  9:13 pm

EXCLUSIVE The director talks about "The Hobbit," the "Hellboy 2" Blu-Ray and the daydream idea of someday making a Swamp Thing film

Swamp_thing_2I sat down with Guillermo del Toro on Tuesday night and, as usual, the "Hellboy" filmmaker was charming, funny and passionate about film and comics. There was a question I've wanted to ask him since I first saw the beasties of "Pan's Labyrinth": Would Del Toro please make a movie adaptation of Alan Moore's sublime run of stories on "Swamp Thing" in the 1980s?

"Oh, I would love to make a Swamp Thing movie," Del Toro said, smiling broadly at the notion. "Really, Swamp Thing is one of the last Holy Grail projects that is still out there. Those stories were fantastic, with the hallucinogenic feel of that world. I don't think anyone is tackling that one anytime soon. It is one of those Holy Grails that dates back to that same boom as 'Watchmen' and 'The Killing Joke.' For me it would be an honor to do it. Right now, I don't think it's happening. If I had enough time to tackle it. But I will be 50 when I get out of 'The Hobbit'..." In January, the 44-year-old fantasy auteur is moving to New Zealand with his wife and their two daughters to begin work on another J.R.R. Tolkien film series, which "Lord of the Rings" director Peter Jackson will be executive producer on. "Everything is going great, it's really a dream come true to be part of this," Del Toro told me. "I'm writing every day."

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Everyday Hero headlines: 'Lord of the Rings,' Daniel Craig and 'Thor,' 'Conan' on film

October 20, 2008 |  3:17 pm

Jrr_tolkien_photogrpahed_by_bille_3It's a big day for fans of "The Lord of the Rings." On this day in 1955, the third book, "The Return of the King," was published, bringing to a close the masterwork by J.R.R. Tolkien (whom you see here in a photograph by Billett Potter).

Today also happens to be the 50th birthday of Viggo Mortensen, who was a last-minute replacement for actor Stuart Townsend in the role of Aragon. The role has been a massive career boost for Mortensen but it almost didn't happen: The New York state native has said he wouldn't have taken the role if his son hadn't been such a fan of the books.

Now, on with today's handpicked fanboy headlines ...

Thor_logo_3 No deal could be hammered out: "Quantum of Solace" star Daniel Craig confirms that he was indeed offered the role of the Norse God of Thunder in Marvel's upcoming "Thor" film adaptation, but that he decided it just wasn't right for him. [IESB]   

Green_hornet_logo_2 Remember when Seth Rogen was telling people that "The Green Hornet" wouldn't be a comedy? Well, things change, especially when you have Stephen Chow as Kato. Rogen nows tells Devin Faraci: "We have one rule when writing, and that's don't get attached to anything. One day we want to make a serious film and then Stephen Chow comes in with a good idea and we're like, 'Well it's funny.' Should we not do it because we originally wanted to do a serious film? We come from, 'Nah ... we'll just take the idea that seems good.' So it's definitely less serious than a serious film, that's for sure." [CHUD]

Batman_logo_2Are John McCain and Barack Obama engaging in Gotham-style politics? David Sarno thinks so, playfully citing a scene from the old "Batman" series featuring the hero in a mayoral debate with the Penguin: "The clip, first uploaded in early 2007, has been picked up by several political commentators and compared to recent debates between Senators John McCain and Barack Obama. Besides being an amusing clip on its own -- the great Burgess Meredith turns in a virtuoso performance as the Bilious Bird -- viewers have noted some chuckle-worthy parallels..." [Web Scout]

Jules_feiffer_2David Kamp reviews "Explainers," which collects Jules Feiffer's cartoons for the Village Voice  from the 1956 through 1966. "The material may show some age, but from the get-go Feiffer’s visual style was assured and bracingly modern: his figures eloquently but sparely drawn (with a thin wooden dowel dipped in ink, not a pen), and no background illustration, just white space. While the strip continued to plumb topical themes as it progressed — Lyndon Johnson, Barry Goldwater and William F. Buckley Jr. all make appearances in “Explainers” — Feiffer became a nimbler satirist, hitting upon several recurring setups and characters that would transcend their atomic-age origins." [New York times Sunday Book Review]

Conan_the_barbarian_dark_horseIs Brett Ratner directing a Conan film? That's what Moriarity reports with considerable chagrin: "Oh, Brett ... why do you want to hurt me? Why do you want to make this movie? Please, please, please tell me it’s because you have a genuine passion for the material and not just because it’s a start date and a financing package that’s ready to go. Please tell me that you really care about the character and its history, and not that it’s just 'Hey, I recognize that name.'" [Ain't It Cool News] ... and, in related news, Ratner met a gorilla in a tutu and, no, it wasn't Kelsey Grammer in his costume from "X-Men: the Last Stand." [Dish Rag]

Indian_flag Priyanko Sarkar analyzes the graphic novel and its standing in India, where the work of Sarnath Banerjee, Orijit Sen and Amruta Patil has stirred interest but the scene has not found enough quality art to match its quality words. "Sadly, bad illustrators are breaking the spine of the genre in India. But that is just one of the challenges facing the Indian graphic market genre.... Other impediments: the packaging of graphic novels, finding people to work on the genre and getting retailers to accept it." [Times of India]

-- Geoff Boucher

Jules Feiffer cartoon courtesy of Fantagraphics; Conan image courtesy of Dark Horse.


'Star Wars' and 'Lord of the Rings' as money machines

August 13, 2008 |  8:08 am

LotrRachel Abramowitz covers the film industry here at the Los Angeles Times, and in July she did a sublime job on an article about the egregious Hollywood treatment of the heirs of J.R.R. Tolkien. In essence, the family of the man who conceived "Lord of the Rings" hasn't been given a cent for the film franchise that has made a mountain of gold. It's one of the best articles I've read anywhere this summer. Here's the beginning of it:

So "The Lord of the Rings" made no money.

Let me amend that. The film trilogy, which grossed $2.96 billion worldwide at the box office and $3 billion or so more in DVD and ancillary markets, has not made any money for the heirs of J.R.R. Tolkien, author of the famous books.

Tolkien obviously isn't Peter Jackson, who directed the franchise, or Liv Tyler or Viggo Mortensen, who starred in it, or New Line Cinema, the studio that financed it, or Miramax, which owned the film rights for a second but couldn't get the movie made, or producer Saul Zaentz, who bought the rights in 1976. He's just the guy who dreamed up the cosmology, the whole shebang of hobbits and dwarfs, orcs, ents, wargs, trolls, whatnot. "Three rings for the Elven-kings under the sky, Seven for the Dwarf-Lords in their halls of stone, Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die, One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne." Those were old John Ronald Reuel Tolkien's words.

Clone_3Rachel goes on to dig into the sad history of Hollywood's shabby strip-mining of author's legacy and family. It's a disheartening piece, frankly. In today's paper, she turns her attention to a sunnier story (and one with more personal tocuhes) about money matters and George Lucas, the wizard of the Jedi universe whose family, I can assure you, is doing quite fine and will be for the next couple of hundred years. Here's an excerpt:

Then this summer, my oldest son, Eli, discovered kiddie crack. That's what I call the Lego Star Wars game he plays on his Nintendo DS, a hand-held computer device. I have to admit that the 2-inch-tall Lego versions of Darth Vader and Chewbacca are pretty darn cute, and I guess it's fun to follow the plots of the six episodes. Still, the games' drug-like grip on my children is a little disconcerting. They prefer Lego to food, even parental bribes like cookies or ice cream.

Apparently, MY kids are not alone in jonesing for the Lego.

Howard Roffman, president of Lucas Licensing, told me that since 1999 they've sold a billion dollars' worth of Lego Star Wars toys. Since 2005, 15 million units of Lego Star Wars computer games have entered the galaxy. Star Wars, in case you've been stranded in an asteroid field for the last 30 years, is "the most successful boys' toy line in history."

According to lore (and Roffman), Lucas initially sold the merchandising rights to his creations to Fox along with the original movie. There was such little anticipation for the title that no toys were actually available until a year after the original film premiered in the spring of 1977.

That Christmas, the original toy manufacturer, Kenner, sold wrapped gift certificates for future action figures. When negotiating the sequel with Fox, Lucas demanded the rights back, and Fox reluctantly acquiesced, as they had to, or else they weren't going to get any of "The Empire Strikes Back."

Roffman says the toy sales actually "fell off a cliff in 1985" as the original audiences aged out of action-figure mania, and the company waited until the '90s to bring back the merchandise, initially for the rabid fans (now young men), which meant comics, books and ultimately video games in 1993. Now it's a well-oiled Force factory, with 100 global licensees and 100 domestic ones, and some 80 million books in print (including 75 New York Times bestsellers).

Lucas himself oversees the spinoffs in the movie and television arena. For everything else, the licensees get a lot of leeway to create products, though they need Lucas' approval. "For fans to get immersed, there has to be integrity to the universe," adds Roffman. That's why there's a staff dedicated to maintaining continuity between all the different "Star Wars" stories and one man, Leland Chee, charged with updating what's called the "Star Wars Holocron." That's the internal database containing every known fact about the "Star Wars" universe. Printed out, it runs about 12,000 pages.

Sometimes I feel as if my 9-year-old, Eli, is prepping for the day he too can run the Holocron. In the last month, the kids have finally seen all the "Star Wars" movies, and I've gotten a little tired of debating the relative merits of Ewoks and Wookies, Luke versus Anakin.

That's not to say I wasn't psyched for a mommy-sons night out in lovely Burbank. Chicken fingers at Bob's Big Boy, then an advance screening on the Warner Bros. lot.

So how is the new "Clone Wars" movie?

I'm not a film critic, and, more important, I adhere to the mom's commandment of good faith -- that is, "Thou shalt not criticize any pop culture artifact beloved by children -- specifically your own children." Suffice it to say, it was loud, extremely loud.

Our "Clone Wars" coverage will keep rolling today: I'll be posting a profile I've written of "Clone" director Dave Filoni later today and we'll be getting the Los Angeles Times review of the film up tomorrow. And most of all, I'm looking forward to hearing what you readers think of the seventh "Star Wars" theatrical release.

-- Geoff Boucher

Photo: Ian McKellen as Gandalf. Credit: Pierre Vinet / New Line Productions

"The Clone Wars" image courtesy of Lucasfilm Animation



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