Redbox and Amazon gunning for Netflix's online subscription business [updated]
Netflix won't have the online movie subscription business to itself for long.
Two of the biggest players in DVD sales and rentals, kiosk company Redbox and online retailer Amazon.com, have told Hollywood studios that they are looking to launch streaming movie services similar to the one offered by Netflix.
Their interest comes in response to the rapid growth of Netflix over the last few years as many consumers are now paying a flat monthly fee to access thousands of movies, instead of paying separately for each film.
Netflix had 15 million subscribers as of June 30, a jump from 10.5 million a year ago, with 61% of them having watched a movie or television show via the Internet on computers and Web-connected TVs. Chief Executive Reed Hastings has said that over the next decade he expects the company to phase out of shipping DVDs and focus entirely on Internet streaming.
As attractive as the business is becoming, however, it presents significant barriers to entry, most notably laying out hundreds of millions of dollars to studios for the rights to their content.
"The recurring revenue stream from subscriptions is very attractive for anybody who wants to create a digital business," said Michael Olson, an analyst at Piper Jaffray. "But Netflix had an advantage when it started spending hundreds of millions on Internet rights because it already had a massive base of DVD subscribers."
Redbox has, along with Netflix, been one of the most disruptive forces to the home video business in the last few years. The company had nearly 27,000 of its $1-per-night DVD kiosks in grocery stores and other retail locations as of June 30, up from 17,900 a year ago. Revenue from its DVD business was up 44% in the most recent quarter to $271.9 million.
But Redbox President Mitch Lowe has said in interviews that the company needs to develop a digital distribution strategy to succeed in the long run as consumers increasingly use computers and Internet-connected televisions to access movies. The need to quickly adapt to technology has been evident this year in the rapidly deteriorating state of video rental giant Blockbuster, which has told the studios it expects to file for bankruptcy later this month.
Several people familiar with the situation said Redbox executives have told studios they are looking at launching an online subscription service that is integrated with its kiosks. For a monthly fee consumers would be able to stream movies over the Internet and also rent a certain number of discs from kiosks.
The plan would make Redbox competitive with Netflix's plans that mix DVDs shipped by mail and online streaming.
Redbox is still mulling over exactly how the digital plan would work, the people said, and isn't expected to launch its service imminently.
[Update, 4:10 p.m.: In a recent interview with Bloomberg, Paul Davis, chief executive of Redbox's parent company Coinstar Inc., said the company's digital strategy will likely involve a partnership and will be detailed on its quarterly conference call with investors next month.]
Amazon.com is said to be closer to launching its online subscription service, however. After years of weighing a move into the business and persistent rumors that it might acquire Netflix, the Seattle-based company's board of directors determined at a recent meeting that it would develop its own online movie and television subscription service, people briefed on the matter said.
The company would look to integrate the subscription plan with Amazon Prime, a plan that offers frequent customers unlimited two-day shipping on products for $79 per year. It's not yet clear how much movie and television streaming would add to that cost.
Amazon, Redbox, and Netflix probably will each have a different mix of movies on their services, much like pay cable networks HBO, Starz, Showtime and Epix on television.
While movies more than a decade old are relatively easy to access for the right price, newer films are tied up in deals with pay cable networks. Epix, for instance, has signed an exclusive digital distribution deal with Netflix for recently released movies from Paramount Pictures, Lionsgate and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer for which it controls the rights. Starz has a non-exclusive deal with Netflix for films from Walt Disney Studios and Sony Pictures. HBO, meanwhile, has been unwilling to let any online subscription services get access to its movies from 20th Century Fox, Universal Pictures and Sony Pictures.
“There are a lot of land mines when it comes to content controlled by the pay TV channels,” said Janney Montgomery Scott analyst Tony Wible.
Amazon and Redbox will each have their own advantages in the business, however, analysts said. Amazon owns the popular movie website IMDB and, like Netflix, has a recommendation engine that can help guide consumers to products they would like. In addition to selling DVDs, it already lets customers download movies and TV shows to rent or own.
Redbox, meanwhile, can use its 27,000 retail kiosks to promote its online service.
Spokespeople for Redbox and Amazon declined to comment.
Google, meanwhile has been making plans to sell and rent movies through its YouTube website, as Apple already does on its iTunes store. Retail giants Wal-mart and Best Buy have been moving into the movie download business as well by acquiring online video companies.
News of Amazon.com's plan for an online subscription business was first reported by the Wall Street Journal.
--Ben Fritz








Redbox is fine, for the most part. But you get just 3 people in front of you, it will take forever until it's your turn. They should make machines that allow 3 people to simultaneously use them.
Posted by: DG3 | September 03, 2010 at 01:36 PM
You can watch many of the free videos from Hulu on civida.com. They also rent out new releases and adult DVDs in one subscription.
Posted by: LV | September 03, 2010 at 10:31 PM
Yea... I agree. Redbox should let the next person in line browse the flixs in the box while the person in front is renting theirs. That way #2 in line makes their decision by the time they get their turn at the console.
Posted by: Ron Larson | September 04, 2010 at 10:12 AM
I've had so many problems trying to return the DVD's and the box was full. I stopped renting from Redbox..
Posted by: George | September 04, 2010 at 02:08 PM
This is just great for the ADA folks like me a large and getting larger minority that are disabled, not to mention very short of funds and can not afford all the gadgets required to stream or download for TV viewing and count on Netflix for its sending us DVDs; which appear to be planned to phase out in a few years.
My question, what the heck are we to do; nothing! As no one cares as only money and modernization count the hell with the poor and disabled - thanks rats.
Posted by: s w VELSOR | September 05, 2010 at 06:56 PM
I suppose people unhappy about the move to streaming are still whining about the loss of beta-max video tapes and 8-tracks. What do you do? You go out and buy yourself a Roku box for about $60 and then you don't even have to go to the mailbox anymore or worry about returning those DVD's.
I've had the same DVD from Netflix for about 4 months now. It's been sitting on a shelf in our house all that time. In the meantime, we've been streaming over 350 titles per month on Instant Watch.
So keep wanting those DVD's through the mail....and keep waiting on them while it sits on my bookshelf for several months.
Posted by: Fred Dickey | October 26, 2010 at 11:24 AM
It's NETFLIX all the way. I hate returning movies with a firm due date. I always get it late. There's late fees at Netflix. It's easy to return movies from a mail box. I think Streaming movies is the way to go. Never buy movies again. I only wish for a few new features like closed caption, DVD extras and special features, faster loading times, and chapters to jump to the scene that I want to see.
Posted by: Ha! | October 26, 2010 at 03:32 PM
Redbox is being squeezed out of physical distribution by not having hits on time in a hits driven business. They have no option but to try and take old content online.
Posted by: Joleen | February 17, 2011 at 09:50 AM