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Now Dodgers lose out on Bill Hall; options in left grow still more bleak

And now on to Plan B … or is that Plan Z?

The most deserted place on Earth?

Left-field for the Dodgers.

Doesn’t anyone who can actually hit a baseball want to play there? One who bats right-handed?

The Dodgers have been busy stockpiling their pitching staff, but their daily lineup has been improved only at second base with the addition of Juan Uribe.

They currently have no left-field starter and lost out on another prime candidate Friday when Bill Hall signed with the Astros to play second base.

It’s not like Hall was going to be a major acquisition, but at least he was right-handed and offered some pop (18 home runs in 382 at-bats for Boston last season).

But according to Foxsports.com’s Ken Rosenthal, Hall just signed a one-year deal with Houston for approximately $3 million.

Which leaves the Dodgers where, besides with a black hole in their lineup?

The pickings are growing slim. This week Magglio Ordonez signed with the Tigers, Xavier Nady with the Diamondbacks and the A’s traded for Josh Willingham. Previously Matt Diaz signed with the Pirates, Pat Burrell with the Giants, and of course, Jayson Werth to those loony Nationals.

What’s left? No free agents to set the heart a-flutter. Austin Kearns, Lastings Milledge, Marcus Thames, Jermaine Dye?

Somebody has to go out there, and the in-house gang -- Jay Gibbons, Xavier Paul, Tony Gwynn Jr. -- all hit left-handed. Trayvon Robinson, who played at class-AA Chattanooga last season, is a switch-hitter with minimal power.

Someone has to share time, presumably with Gibbons. Regulars Andre Either and James Loney are left-handed. The Dodgers might have been better off signing Hall to play second, moving Uribe to third and letting Casey Blake platoon with Gibbons in left. Something, other than where they currently are.

With a hole in left, and options to fill it dwindling. First they lose out on Diaz, and now Hall. Manny Ramirez, of course, remains available.

-- Steve Dilbeck

 
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@jason (aka tommy flanagan... 'Father' Flanagan you ain't)


"(Juan Pierre) make our defense even worse."


- worse? Hey, Juan may be able to turn off the lights and be in bed before the room gets dark but he can't walk on water/is not a miracle worker.


Reiterating however:

JP was the #1 ranked LF in the AL putouts, the #1 ranked LF in the AL total zone runs (a measure of 'range') and the #1 ranked AL LF in fielding %; you be blinded by the massive searchlights sent out find competence dudger OF.


podsednik was fun to watch (in a pathednik sorta way), ramirez had a certain (epilectic) style - and gibbons? Why, I just go 'ape' over him.


However, it's the current magicians out in CF & RF who make watching these dudgers play defense a 'learning experience' (unfortunately for fans, there is no Tom Emanski when la needs him.)

Surely you haven't forgotten that 'Statue' out in RF - he can't turn water into wine but routinely turns routine outs into hits, singles to doubles, doubles to triples and... well, the master of ambulation and correct reads, he ain't.

He's almost as entertaining as the 'Matador' in CF - you just never know when he'll: a) ole stage left when he should have exited right, or the next time he'll bounce/catch the ball off his head (and over the wall - probably in tribute to Jose Canseco.)


Together, they are worth the price of admission alone (and I sincerely mean that, because parking, concessions & winning baseball will cost you extra.)

Jose Canseco is willing to attempt a comeback with the Dodgers. Since the Dodgers rescued Jay Gibbons off the Mitchell Report scrap heap and Manny, Gagne, LoDuca all thrived with the Blue Crew, I say Go Jose!!

16 Blows:

The only problem with your Pierre stats is that he appears to have had an aberration of a a good year. Most of the time he has not finished that well in those categories, so most likely a fluke.
Plus his arm is so weak he can hardly hit the cut off man not to mention throw in to say 2nd base without it rolling to a stop on the outfield grass.
And he has no worth in his bat.

Anyone who wants Juan Pierre back understands very little about baseball and what players are valuable.

Reply to "Since '58"... say what you may about Claire's moves involved Pedro, Gibby, etc. We've had a boat load of GM's since Fox stepped on their toes with Claire...show me one of those GM suits wearing a championship ring my friend.

Ask the Mets to do a sign and trade for Carlos Beltran! ......Wait the owners are broke..Sign and trade for Beltran, pull a McCourt and defer the money until 2020.....If Carlos won't bite... get on your knees and beg Scotty Pods to come back. No, No that won't work, Scotty hates us....Since Pods and Gibbons are both lefties and the owners are going broke, who needs Pods........better off just saving the money and giving Gibbons the job full-time...YEA, GIBBONS WILL WORK!...Baseball in LA done using BosCourt method, pay your lawyers, pay your loans, pay your sons, pay your friends.....then pay your players......

Hey deserve better, we do.....Wasn't it Frad Claire who traded Pedro Martinez for a ham sandwich to be named later?????

@jon


"The only problem with your Pierre stats is that"


- they be unassailable, scrupulously factual and so vex his detractors (don't you know.)


Strike 1.


"he appears to have had an aberration of a a good year."


- he 'aberrated' for 160 games... I sense a trend.


Strike 2.


"Most of the time he has not finished that well in those categories"


- most of the time he played CF (8 years) and did just fine. The next two he didn't get the chance to play much. Last year he did in LF Chicago and the results speak for themselves... #1 in the AL.


Better luck your next at bat. Strike 3.


"so most likely a fluke."


- I thought the same thing regards 16blows 2009 season & kemp's too... aft that 2010 'performance' theirs, looks like I was right x2.

Strike 1.


"Plus his arm is so weak he can hardly hit the cut off man not to mention throw in to say 2nd base without it rolling to a stop on the outfield grass.


- 16blows is so S - L - O - W he makes Heinz Ketchup look fleet & he can't figure out the correct angles to take the outfield short carrying a protractor.


OK, your turn again... strike 2.


"And he has no worth in his bat."


- if 16blows (.291) & kemp (.285) were obligations, they would both be in arrears and left in the wake Juan Pierre's .298 career bat.


Strike 3 (again).


"Anyone who wants Juan Pierre back understands very little about baseball and what players are valuable."


- you've just been thrown out of the game, lucky for you; we were going to have to pull you anyway for a pinch-hitter to prevent Silver Sombrero...


Game, set, match: JUAN PIERRE


P-I-E-R-R-E!

You're close when you suggest moving Uribe to third and letting Casey Blake platoon with Jay Gibbons in left. But consider this move, assuming the Dodgers have the stomach to negotiate with Scott Boras. Bring Adrian Beltre back to play third (an upgrade both offensively and defensively) and let Blake and Gibbons share left. It won't be cheap, but we just signed a 32-year old middle reliever to a 3 year deal at $4M year. Four years at $15M per year might get Beltre back in Dodger blue.

Yo, Ned!!!!! Offer Jermaine Dye Russell's 5 million/yr and see if he will take it.

16 blows:

At least you have a sense of humor, bonus points for that.

I would say Kemp's 2010 is the fluke but we'll just have to wait and see for that answer.
We don't need Pierre. We don't need a weak-hitting (BA is not important, OPS is what you need to look at) LH batting LF right now. We've got plenty of powerless bats, we need pop.
Would Pierre be better than Tony Gwynn Jr. in Center and Kemp and Ethier on each side (Ethier in LF), for sure, I can agree on that.
Just don't get people who think Juan Pierre is anything more than an average ballplayer.
Check his WAR for career (minus first short year): he has played 10 years and his total WAR is 13.7 (first year was 0.2 in only 200 or so PA), so that means he averages 1.3 WAR per year. Last year it was up to 3rd highest total in his career which is 2.o. Not much there to rave about. Both Ethier and Kemp las year were above 2.0 on down years.

Simple embarrassing... The Red Sox land Gonzalez, The Phillies get Lee,The Tigers lock up Ordonez, and we are lamenting the missed opportunity for Billy Hall??!!

Man the depths we have sunk to..

@jon


"16 blows"

- yes, what is it now Farmer Jon?

"At least you have a sense of humor, bonus points for that."

- at least you HAD Pierre... losers weepers finders keepers.


"I would say Kemp's 2010 is the fluke but we'll just have to wait and see for that answer."

- seeing is believing... I do, 2010. On the other, anyone who believes having Juan Pierre back on this 'offensive juggernaut' dudgers wouldn't be a shot of adrenaline to a geriatric lot that scored runs at a pace almost as often sherrill & broxton prevented same scoring the other teams is obviously an comedian (and you think I'm the comical one?)

Despite their supposed youth (relative), sloth/poor base-running & a wildly overrated defense resume each, the other hallmarks these partners baseball crime is 'tude' - with Capital 'A'; copious spins Hank Williams Jr.'s 'Attitude Adjustment' needed, aisles 16 and 27.

'If', between the chest thumping and sky-pointing the one and the other whose moods borne of streakiness suggests we should call him 'Skid Mark', 16 blows & Kid 'K' be the best we can muster lost angeles, we are DOOMED.

"We don't need Pierre. We don't need a weak-hitting (BA is not important, OPS is what you need to look at) LH batting LF right now. We've got plenty of powerless bats, we need pop."

- no, of course not - we're fine - just as happy as pigs in... 'waste', what with the overflowing roster trough baseball delights be feasting upon now just as same sated us last season; umm umm (not so) good, umm umm (not so) good, that's what Frank & Ned cooked, umm umm BLECHHHHHHH!

"Would Pierre be better than Tony Gwynn Jr. in Center and Kemp and Ethier on each side (Ethier in LF), for sure, I can agree on that."

- baby steps, yours... keep walking toward 'the light'.


"Just don't get people who think Juan Pierre is anything more than an average ballplayer."

- I feel precisely the same way about 16 blows; only faint praise he deserves is he uses his limited ability better than a more naturally talented but apparently disinterested 'K'emp.


"he averages 1.3 WAR per year. Last year it was up to 3rd highest total in his career which is 2.o. Not much there to rave about. Both Ethier and Kemp las year were above 2.0 on down years."

- Pierre steals more bases in a month than 16blows does in an year - to be fair, 16blows leaves more runners stranded on base in a month than Juan does in a career.

JP was a multiple-category stat leader, World Champion & millionaire by the age of 26; now approaching age 29 (16blows) and 27 ('K'), neither measures up with Juan Pierre. Those affirm same as batting average, stolen base knack and games played, i.e., availability, why Juan Pierre stands head & shoulders above the formers, any way you cut it.

P-I-E-R-R-E!

its over, sign jermaine dye... see you in 2012...

How about Ryan Sweeney? The A's have a surplus of outfielders now and he reminds me of a young Andre Ethier.

16 Blows;

So WAR doesn't matter eh? Basically the stat that shows the true value of a player. Both Kemp and Ethier had a higher WAR than Pierre last year even with his fluke breakout year on defense....
I'd say we're better off without a light hitting wimp who can't throw the ball back to the outfield, but hey he does steal bases so I guess that makes him good, huh?

 
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