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When your eyes deceive you: Joe Torre says the Dodgers have not quit

Losing can make a team look bad. Look lifeless, like it's lost its spirit, is going through the motions.

The still fading Dodgers entered Sunday having lost four consecutive games. And often have appeared, like a team going through the motions.

But Dodgers Manager Joe Torre said he has not sensed the Dodgers are simply playing out the string.

"I don't think anyone has quit," Torre said. "They're going out and doing as much as they can do, but sometimes when there's not as much at stake as there was earlier in the year, you don't do as well.
 
"But I don't think anybody's quit. When you see some of the other players who have been regulars, I think they're frustrated and disappointed."

General Manager Ned Colletti, however, did not sound pleased with the Dodgers overall approach when he told Dodgers.com's Ken Gurnick:

"Besides any roster changes, we need to be sharper, we need to play with more edge and focus than we did this year right from the beginning," Colletti said. "We need to have a relentless passion to succeed and win games."

Doesn't sound like he's all excited about their focus at the beginning, middle or the end.

Still, Torre claimed the Dodgers' focus hasn't waned as the season has slipped away.

"When you look in there, nobody is showing up late," he said. "I think you get an indication when guys start straggling in and are a little late, that this is an imposition for them. We haven't had any of that.

"Frustrating -- yes. It's been very frustrating, for our young players particularly. You know what Matt Kemp has been through this year. There's no question what (Andre) Ethier's been through, maybe with the addition of being injured. But nobody's quit."

-- Steve Dilbeck

 
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Hey Steve, how about a favor?
Somewhere, someone probably got a quote from Jim Tracy about Torre's departure ....
can you post some of the great man's musings on the subject? (assuming that he went on the record)

I think the quotes Dilbeck put together here are tied by this: the team never expressed a sense of urgency. Therefore, Torre may be accurate that nobody has quit but it's only because there never really was a true get up and start to things either.

When you play 162, one game doesn't typically make or break a season. It can spur momentum swings, but usually its stretches that make or break seasons. But if you go back to the first series, at lowly Pittsburgh. First game, first inning, Garrett Jones hits a 1-2 pitch into the Allegheny River for a 3-run dinger. Two innings later, he goes deep again. Second game of season, Kershaw's season-long pattern is set by a bad first inning, which is Jones going deep yet again. (Fortunately, Kershaw still pitched great throughout the season and better offense would have had him at 20 wins or knocking on that door.)

The Dodgers won 9 games in April against the Pirates (two series), Marlins, D-backs, Giants, Reds, Nationals and Mets. They never got up and got going.

I think some of the team quits on certain days, and so a collective quit is seen. Kemp has been obvious in that regard. Another example, I've enjoyed Casey Blake's play (glove more than bat) even if not more than a .250 to .265 hitter but in the 9th Sunday there was no way he was even close to hitting a pitch. Those were Ole' swings if ever there was one.

Guess Torre's qualifier that tries to put a definition on what quit means will direct how you feel. I didn't like their start, and definitely think there's been some quit.

give me a break..... everyone knows that they quit after the all star break.... no heart. Torre has been asleep at the wheel all season and we all know it.
He has not made 1 player better during his tenure.

Give us a break.... we all know that the team quit months ago.
Torre has been asleep at the wheel. He has not helped 1 player get better during his entire tenure, in fact most of them have regressed.

"I don't think anyone has quit," Torre said. "They're going out and doing as much as they can do, but sometimes when there's not as much at stake as there was earlier in the year, you don't do as well".
Typical Torre and baseball speak.
If a person consistently doesn't do well on their job, then that person is ether not right for the job or is quitting on the job. No excuses.
See how the $425K -$750K players that come up, play. They perform, good or lousy, to their ability. As I said in another post, last year was contract year for the core players.
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