Discuss the second presidential debate

The Nashville debate between Senators John McCain and Barack Obama focused on domestic issues.  Did the town-hall format benefit one candidate over the other?  Were the issues that matter to you discussed?  Perhaps most importantly -- how much will it matter to voters?

Share your thoughts here.

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Comments

[William Hale]

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[L.A. Times Administrator]

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[Jon K.]

Both candidates have started off well, but it's early.

[Gary C.]

Sen. McCain, please stop using the phrase, "my friends" its lame and sounds too political. And explain your VP's involvement in Alaska Independence Party.

[Jon K.]

McCain just lost it. He just hit the "testy" point. There's no going back with this guy once he's dropped over that waterfall.

[Jon K.]

The "my friends" comment is lame. Unfortunately, McCain isn't clear on that because he's out of touch.

[Joe Rotes]

McCain is attacking Obama and his anger is barely contained. More emotion from McCain but no content. McCain is defending tax-cuts for the FAT CATS. Amazing !

[Tombstone Realty]

I really liked McCain, but this debate performance is pathetic. He mocked Obama for not answering the question of "Can you fix Social Security and Medicare in two years", when he *did* - yet then McCain snarks and then HE doesn't answer the question himself.

He just seems to be reciting these disjointed phrases - one minute he says the economy isn't going to get worse, then he's tossing an insult Obama's way that the economy is "bad".

I do enjoy Tom B. slapping down the both of them. That's the only amusement I'm getting out of this. Our country is in trouble, we don't have time for this crap.

[Jon K.]

I really thought that McCain would do better. I thought that he would have the clear advantage in this debate. Right now I'd put Obama way ahead.

[bruce]

John sounds like the worst parts of Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II.

[Xenu]

If McCain's Ginkgo Bilboa supplements wear off during the debate it's gonna' be embarrassing.

[Joe Rotes]

McCain has become an empty bag for Karl Rove. What do you expect from someone who bypasses tens of more capable women to pick the following:
- brain-dead Sarah Palin
- golden-parachute Carly Fiorina
- two-timing Joe Liberman

He is way too patronizing and BITTER. Get this over with. It's a farce.

[Jon K.]

Wow. I honestly thought that it would be favored towards McCain, but Obama is sweeping the floor with him so far.

[Andrew Burt]

Stop saying "MY FRIENDS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not your friend mate.
McCain just said Reagan was his hero. Scary.

[Jon K.]

McCain is stuck in Vietnam. He's reliving it through the war in Iraq. I understand how he feels. I have compassion for him and his desire to "win" but we can't be doing that now. We've done enough in Iraq. He needs to get that. Not everything ends with the super happy ending of a World War II-type victory.

Did the veterans of Korea get a huge parade?

[Andrew Burt]

Hey it's either Reagan or Roosevelt Mr McCain.
"My Hero", "My Friends".
My Goodness he is shockingly bad.

[Brian Daicos]

McCain getting a bit testy.
Follow ups allow him to be exposed.
An angry old man who is desperate to get the Presidency and stick it to the Neo-Cons.
He isn't interested in the America.
YES!! Obama calling McCain out on his Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran etc stoopid calls.

[Jon K.]

Obama just knocked out McCain. It's over.

[Benny J]

McCain can't even get his "favorite" quote right.

[Mary Nell]

My friends is on my list now of words that are irritating - in the top 3 right up there with maverick, gotcha, and if I am so blessed.

[Jon K.]

McCain almost sounds scrambled. Wow. I'm an Obama supporter and I was hoping for a tie. Instead I got an overwhelming victory by Obama.

[Jon K.]

McCain did beat Obama on the Russia issue. He was clearer.

[Jon K.]

Obama should not have avoided the last question. If he would have addressed it directly, he would have scored a grand slam.

[david martin]

Obama won hands down how can any country elect a senile president

[Michele]

John McCain won hands down. Obama could not give a straight answer to most questions. Watch out.....if you like communism and socialism...you have him in Obama. I think personal responsibility is what makes a country great. Obama is so lacking that it is down right scary. WAKE UP AMERICA! Vote for the RIGHT change!! McCain/ Palin 08

[Sherry]

Give me a break. Can anyone else see how biased the media is here? After the debate was over the cameras were ALL OVER Obama following his every move and McCain was almost not seen. It's disgraceful journalism in my opinion and I've lost a LOT of respect for ABC news as a result. These events should be non-partial to the end and this was certainly not in terms of camera coverage.

[Chris]

McCain announced a new program to buy mortgages directly? Please! Read the bailout legislation - there is an option to buy these already, if the Treasury Secretary decides to... the money is already there, as part of the $700 billion. McCain should have read the Bill before he voted for it.

[tarakl]

if mccain said he had a plan for something but gave no further details one more time i was going to lose my mind. as an independent who is undecided, his responses frustrated me.

[Ann]

"McCain unveils the major surprise of the night as he promises to launch a federal program to buy failing mortgages directly. "

Ohmmigod! What a grasping-at-straws ploy. And I'll be doubled-damned if I am going to pay for someone who makes $50,000 to stay in their $500,000 house because they did an option ARM loan where they didn't have to prove their income, put down whatever they wanted for income, barely qualified for the loan on just the payment that doesn't even cover the interest and are now whining they can't afford the house when the payment resets to interest and principal.

Of all the financially suicidal, completely irresponsible proposals, this one takes the cake. I wouldn't let the McCain or the Republicans run a lemonade stand in the front yard - they would bankrupt the neighborhood.

House prices will continue to fall until they are back in line with incomes. Period.

[josh]

McCain did okay, but Obama way better.

[Archangel]

McCain... shuffles like an old rusty unoiled android, has a voice like the whisper of a charming snake and blows rhetoric completely devoid of any substance or committment.
Then did you notice how fast he and his trophy broad bailed the stage while Obama took the time to bond and dialog with each and every member of the audience? Any questions left as to who is better qualified to engage America and its challenges?

[caseclosed]

I liked the way McCain surprised Obama with the mortgage buy back plan. Obama will be trying to till us it was his idea if everyone likes it. If it is hated by everyone, he will give McCain the credit. But debates prove nothing it would be better if they gave them a list of questions for them to answer then if they lied or they don't keep there promises they must retire in three days no exceptions.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Obama is a fraud. He is the most underqualified moron to ever run for the office of president, and I know how all you Libs hate W, but that’s just the sad fact. He’s not only a smooth talking Marxist, but just plain dangerous. While we’re all waiting to see what ACORN office gets raided next, pass the time by looking up any or all of the following:

Obama ACORN
Obama / Ayers
Berg vs. Obama
Obama / Khalid al-Mansour
Obama / Donald Warden
Obama / Mohammed Hasan Chandoo
Obama / Rezko
Obama / Saul Alinski
Obama / Wright
Obama / Khalidi
Obama / Malcolm X
Obama / Alwaleed bin Talal
Obama / Farrakhan
Obama / Woods Fund
Obama / The Black Panthers
Obama / Cloward-Piven Strategy
Obama / Public Allies Youth Group

[pg]

Does McCain's economic freeze of all but the essential govt programs (VA, military, etc) include the buying of bad home loans?

You can't have it both ways. Erratic.

[Scott]

This type of format was supposed to be McCain's forte. He looked like a wind up toy stuck in a corner, unhinged and rambling. If Obama just held his own in the "town hall format" then it was a victory. Not only did he hold his own, he owned McCain!

p.s. I am not "your friend" Senator McCain

[Olivier G]

McCain is back on whatever drugs lead you to say "my friend" every two minutes. They will be confiscated before next week.

[John stewart]

Wakeup!!! Not only did MacCain have far more substantive things to say (unlike Obama who talks in nice sounding platitudes), MacCain's logic, when scrutinized, is far more powerful. That is, though both candidates commit logical fallacies, Obama commits them far more often then MacCain. Obama's smooth talking sure does get him a long way; that is about all Obama has going for him, and apparently, that is all you need to dazzle people.

[becky]

I can't believe McCain actually proposed for the federal government to buy ALL the mortgages that people are defaulting on and then ridicules Obama for wanting to spend money. Why are we bailing out companies and people for being greedy? If you can't afford a house on a conventional or FHA loan, than you have no business buying the house!!!!! The people who signed these mortgage papers need to take some responsibility and not go crying to their nearest councilman to bail them out. Please.

[miles Zaremski]

In boxing parlance, Obama won on points in a split decision. He was, though, clearly more "presidential". Sen. McCain was "tilting at windmills" ala Don Quixote.

[greg]

The debate were the way I knw it would. Mccain has nothing to say. He waas looking for somethng to lean on both physically and mentally. Obama is what we need, cool, calm and in control. The 'Pig in Lipstick' was inciting a riot during her Florida speech. Trying to paint Obama as a terrorist is another tactic to ask for someone to hurt him. after ORielly asks for the lynching of Michelle we now have her looking to win by any means. The country first theme is dead...no we see the real people. When we hear first HIlary then Sara talk of some of the worst days of our history. The links showing this are here. Is there any wonder that he did not pick her as a vp...this also is a point in his favor that he willnot stoop to any tactic to win. Obama unlike these others has true honor!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marjorie-cohn/hillary-invokes-assassina_b_103551.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-feldman/is-palin-trying-to-incite_b_132534.html

[John Sullivan]

Obama looks and acts presidential, he won big.

[Don Jsko]

Obama's the clear winner, but I would still prefer Ron Paul.

[chioma]

Obama did well. He had composure and was in control all the time. McCain was just the grumpy, old man and had no substance!

[Maurice S]

How many times does Obama have to say this? "%95 of Americans will pay less taxes." It is amazing that both McCain and Palin keep saying that Obama wants to raise taxes. That's absolutely correct... if you make over 250k/yr. This just makes them look stupid. Most Americans, myself included, dont make over $250K/year, and under Obama's leadership, we wont pay any more taxes. C'mon, McCain, lett that go! Who do you think will believe that? These look like desperate blows to me. Clearly, Obama won this one.

[KVA]

I thought the best part of the debate was hearing Obama talk about his mother's fight with cancer. It was real and personal. It made me think about my own mother and family and hoping that I would not go through this

[Karen]

The physical contrast was huge: an old over-the-hill guy who can barely keep his train of thought or move his arms (and with an ill-fitting suit that showed off a bit of a dowager's hump), versus a young guy with lots of energy and MUCH more focus, who was elegant enough to treat the old guy with respect.

Obama came across like he "got it". McCain came across as barely keeping it together til the end of the night (like that was an endurance contest).

I have to say I liked McCain much more at the end, when he seemed (almost) human. But I can't, just can't, vote for the guy. And I'm registered Republican.

Too much hubris; zero humility, humbleness, or hope.

[Diane - Vancouver, WA]

Barack Obama commanded the stage. He was clear, precise, Presidential looking. A clear winner.

[Jerome Melgar]

Tom Brokaw did an AWFUL job as moderator. There was no hard-hitting questions for either candidate. The reason we have these town-hall debates is to hear what Americans what to know!

[BJ Withall]

A disappointing debate; a repeat of much of the information and swipes tossed around in the first debate. Guess both candidates are afraid to rock the boat.

[j b goode]

To the commenter re: media bias.

Yes, the cameras were all over Obama after the debate. Why? Because Mccain immediately bailed. What were they supposed to do, go chasing after him? Obama stayed behind to connect and speak with the audience - there was no other candidate there to have the cameras all over. Is that biased??? That's a no brainer.

[AnnieLaurie Burke]

As a citizen who is lucky enough to have health insurance through my employer, I am sick of hearing my high-deductible, 80-20 plan characterized as a "Cadillac, gold-plated" privilege to be taxed – this, from a man who has 9 houses and several cars! Or is it 7 houses? Or 10? We have been "expressly" unable to get much "straight talk" from Senator McCain on his Cadillac, gold-plated lifestyle. Out of touch is a charitable assessment. I can tell him, from my former experience as a self-employed person, that $5000 did not cover a basic policy back in 2002 for a couple in their mid 50s with no adverse health history.

[E. Main]

Someone commented that the cameras were all over Barack Obama after the debate. Well, its hard to follow someone that isn't in the room, that's right McCain bailed as soon as humanly possible. But of course, not before he snubbed Senator McCain by refusing to shake his hand.

[Bill Slavick]

The format favored McCain because Obama was constrained in replying to numerous misrepresentations by McCain.

McCain's constant exasperated condescension toward Obama is arrogant and disgusting, reason alone to write him off..

[michael]

senator mccain is correct that i don't understand. i don't understand how he got us in to this mess in the first place. ............priceless.

[CAS]

According to CNN, "A majority of debate watchers polled thought Obama was more intelligent, by a 57 percent to 25 percent margin over McCain." I guess that seals it. Americans have proven in the last two elections they are a nation of idiots who will elect an idiot to lead them. Unless Obama dumbs it down and soon, McCain will surely win this one.

[Lester Fudd]

As a life-long Republican I was hoping McCain would do better, but he whiffed. He offers no tangible plans, no hope, and he keeps thinking giving tax breaks is the answer to everything. Sadly I think I must vote for Obama this fall, if only because America needs a lot of fixing and we need someone with energy.

Sorry, but John came across as a tired old man... which he is. Better to lose with dignity now than throw mud and ruin his legacy as an American hero. He can't defend the last 8 years and unfortunately that is all that matters right now.

[Chris]

Guess whose money McCain's going to use to buy back those junk mortgages. That's right-- hold on to your wallets! The Republicans are coming!

[erinn]

Mr. Stewart... "Not only did MacCain have far more substantive things to say".

I'm sorry I must have missed those. Can you list three? I heard him mention another pay out to those who need help with their mortgages... but that's not new nor much of a plan (we pay that too in taxes). What else is McCain proposing domestically besides status quo?

[Sheila Hutman]

I think the comments made by the candidates on what they would do about the economic crisis must have been confusing to the average middle income voters. They are looking for clear answers, and the various health care plans and tax benefits for medical expense are difficult to figure out,.,

[Patricia J. Crother]

McCain was sure determined to smear Obama; he never missed a chance to sling a barb, yet so often untrue or misleading.
It was ironic to note on the news after the debate to hear Palin keep harping on "Obama always bringing up the past! " - the very tactic McCain had been using throughout the whole debate.

[Knute]

The Mortgage Buyback - too little, too late. Transparent gimmick...

[ancient_greek]

It is unwise to give power to those that seek it.

[Eric]

Ok wait... I looked up a lot on the aforementioned "dangerous" list.... Acorn is supposed to be some radical group like "move-on" and code pink? Cool... millions of us are now radicals! Wow, that's really stretching it.

Proponents of change bother those who feel they have the most to loose. Capitalism unfettered has destroyed our economy and our children's economic futures, not to mention shattering our place in the global equation. It's time for change.

[Lewis Louthean - Australia]

WAKE UP AMERICA

You’re riding in a bus. On the left is the Democratic side, on the right is the Republicans, but it’s you the driver who decides where you are now headed�

VOTE AND MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT…!!!

Another 4-8 years of inept Government and the avarice of Wall Street cronies, a lack of proper governance over an out-of-control unregulated National banking industry, will see the ultimate demise of the USA as a world Superpower and leader of the free world.

Urgent moral and fiscal challenges with extensive hazards need to be directly faced RIGHT NOW.
There are inherent contradictions when financial entities are permitted to reap obscene profits and manage vast assets and then, when conditions alter, are simply declared too large to be permitted to fail, requiring taxpayer bailouts.
Financial institutions, whether investment banks or hedge funds need urgent regulatory oversight right across the Nation, in a way that protects the interests of taxpayers.

HISTORICAL STATEMENTS AND WISDOM FROM THE PAST

�The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government, which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses. This little coterie runs our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency ever created for the public’s protection.� - Said N.Y. Mayor, John Hylan, 1922

�[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change its perceptions.�
Said Henry Kissinger, World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel,
April 19th 1994

�I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies.
If the American people ever allow the private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.�
�The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.�
Said Thomas Jefferson

�It was not my intention to doubt that the doctrines of the Illuminati had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more fully satisfied of this fact than I am.
Said George Washington, 1782

[dotmafia]

This one. . .

THAT WON 08

copyright d. wince

[Michelle]

Obama is just what this country needs at this time! I hope we are smart enough to put him in office. Go OBAMA!!!

[EGR]

Will one of these guys promise to attack the "financial terrorists" that raped our banking system and supported the pyramid-scheme loan game we have been led to believe as functional for the last century?

All this money being pumped into the economy is making the dollar even weaker - simple math gone wrong.

[ER1981]

Will A CANDIDATE please target the financial terrorists that raped our credit system with a pyramid-scheme loan game for the last century including corporations and politicians funding their own interests?

Someone should make a strong stand to go after these guys, possess their illegal property, and put for sale on the net as auction to the highest middle/lower class in a fair way for Joe Taxpayer

That would make a statement of leadership we need - I'm bored with these debates.

[Alec Wisner]

McCain has a very odd habit. He will take an issue and say something like this: "I'm glad you asked that question. It's a really important issue facing America and the next president will have to provide decisive leadership. And I know what to do. I know how to reach across the aisle, to Sen. Feingold, Sen. Leiberman, Sen. Kennedy, and the leaders of my party don't always like that. Sen. Obama never stands up against his party leaders. But as president, I'll reach across the aisle, and we'll sit down at a table, and we'll ask the hard questions and deal with the tought questions, and we'll get it, done."

FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, when will somebody ask McCain WHAT he is going to do? If I were Obama, I might say: "Great! You're tough. You're experienced. You can reach across the aisle. But what exactly are you going to do?"

Of course, McCain always like to appoint commissions to study the problems.

As it is, Obama generally responds with some specifics, although, admittedly, far fewer than I'd like him to.

Curiously, tonight McCain seemed to co-opt several Democratic position, in a complete reversal of his previous stance, such as federal intervention to rewrite mortgages, and act as though he had invented the wheel. Since he suspended hi campaign and wants credit for his leadership on the bailout, er, rescue, why didn't he stand up for the Democratic efforts to get that written into the package at that time? Now THAT would have been standing up to his own party.

[DC]

"Mostly to a Draw?"

If you're going to assume that debates like this have winners and losers, how can you pretend it was a draw? In every measurable regard, Obama won:

Survey USA: 56% to 26%
CNN: 54% to 28%
CBS: 39% to 27%
Mediacurves: 52% to 34%

It's truly incredible how the MSM constantly gets the story wrong after a debate. If this was a "draw," then what would constitute a win?

[Gary]

Re Sherry's post: Sherry said, "Give me a break. Can anyone else see how biased the media is here? After the debate was over the cameras were ALL OVER Obama following his every move and McCain was almost not seen. It's disgraceful journalism in my opinion and I've lost a LOT of respect for ABC news as a result. These events should be non-partial to the end and this was certainly not in terms of camera coverage."

Seriously? It is like you are grousing over the placement of deck chairs on the Titanic as it sinks to a watery grave. Wake up ... it is not media bias or unethical journalism. Your boy John just had his clock cleaned, and you're casting around for a villain to blame? You have just witnessed a watershed event in US history -- the discrete moment in time when the US decided collectively to elect its first African American President, AND mark the end of two generations of accepted wisdom that had made a political icon of laissez faire capitalism as the answer to the question as to whether there is a need for regulation in the marketplace.

[Wally]

With all of his "expirince" shouldn't Sen. McCain be doing better ? He said that this is not the time for "on the job training" was he stating that in reference to himself ? This country deserves better then what his campaign has to offer.

[Louise]

John McCain lost big time, he keeps saying "My friends I KNOW HOW TO ..."
yet in the last 8 years he hasn't. He lost his credability when he proposed privatizing SS and Medicare. What a joke.

[Daniel]

Don't vote Republi-crat! Why waste your vote when the main stream media and corporations have already decided for us. The Republicans and Democrats are just two wings of the same bird. Vote third party and send these fools in Washington a message.
Do you know about Chuck Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney, or Ralph Nader? Google them and make your vote really count.

[jon]

overall, obama seem to sound more as a traditional politician...making lots of promises that are likely unattainable, unrealistic and most importantly vague...

[jon]

i still believe voters should not gamble on this election or else this could be the end of the once mighty USA...cmon lets go for mccain...in obama, its like we are experimenting...nowadays, its just so very dangerous of taking somebody from out of nowhere...

[Novella]

The cameras showed the Obamas after the debate for the simple reason that the McCains were no longer there. The C-Span commentator said that McCain and Cinty left almost immediately after the debate, while the Obamas stayed around. That's why they were't showing McCain. He wasn't there! Don't you think that says something about who is comfortable and wants to connect with people? Why didn't McCain stay?

[Barbi]

Barack Obama is exactly who we need as commander and chief, in the white house. Last night's debate once again proved just how solid, secure and smart, Mr. Obama is.

Way to go to the clear winner of last nights debate...and "my friends," it was NOT John McSame.

Obama 08!!!

[Frank Primeau]

As I watched a doddery Senator McCain tottering across the stage I had this nightmarish flash of a woman in a fire-engine red dress and pumps winking at me from the background!

[Joel]

The presidency is more than just sound bites in a debate. We need our president to be AND appear to be intelligent. One of the most important assets a president brings to office is his cabinet and advisers. No one man can lead a country alone. Clinton demonstrated this in his great choices. So Did Bush, by his poor choices.
Isn't it obvious to anyone but me that Palin is a poor choice, and that this demonstrates that McCain's choices would be based on politics rather than qualities? We are really in for hard times. We need a government that reflects our national pride to the rest of the world, instead of disparaging it,
It's true that the debates let us learn about the character of our candidates, but I don't think the studied and chosen answers are the whole story. Just watching and listening to Obama's behavior made me feel good about my choice. McCain's behavior appeared arrogant and angry.

[Jaap den Haan]

Mahatma KH is concerned about the following: the environment is an (even) more urgent issue than the economy; not very many people realize the damage to our natural habitat. One should ask if the earth can even be still saved and by what means, immediately. We must take care that nature is the essence of all future development, and we will recover to our own.

[Tim Monaghan]

That ONE won!

[Patrick Knox]

McCains accusations that Obamas tax cuts were would raise taxes was very deceptive. His plan would allow the tax cut on the richest americans to expire and lower the taxes for the rest of us.

[NewDay]

I cringe everytime McCain says "my friends" it makes my skin crawl!

[The One]

Sherry how can the cameras could possibly follow Mccain he stay after the debate for only 5 minutes and ran away. And what about his wife does she shakes anybody hands? That show me one thing Mr. Mccain and Mrs. Mccain thinks they are better than any one. I'm voting for Obama because he is for the people not for the millionares.

[EC]

With his staggering gait and soft, quavering voice, McCain pretty much handed the election to Obama.

McCain's self-admiited "poor choices" as a senator has cost taxpayers billions and the man was censured for his roll in the Keating Five scandal - and yet he still spoke of his glorious senatorial career. A legend in his own mind, indeed.

I'm not crazy about Obama (would have voted for Hilary) but if he's lying to me, at least he sells it.

[JoieC]

I don't understand how anyone can still be undecided or a McCain (let's not even talk about Palin) supporter. It seems clear to me that voting for McCain will be like walking down the same dead end street we are already on. To be honest, I'm scared that we are headed in that direction. There are too many undecided people out there that I fear will make a last minute decision based on something they overheard...

Undecided voters need to pay attention to what's going on so they don't f it up for the rest of us!! Especially those veterans out there like me who could possibly have a freeze on benefits that I earned serving this country for 4 years.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

You can stick a fork in McCain. The only good thing left now, is four more SNL with Tina Fey.

[Elaine Lawson]

Senator Obama was a true leader, really Presidential.

[MICHAEL]

Obama?

Yea, our taxes aren't high enough; we gonna elect this clown to raise them some more...

[Joe 6 Pack]

McCain looked like a desperate man last night. He should thank his stars that he didn't do 10 town hall meetings. It is NOT a good forum for him, from his aging rickety body, to his forced menacing smiles, to his innappropiate use of "humor," oh and his terrible campaign.

Having that moron Palin throw mud, then McCain throwing a hail mary with a mortgage bail out program. Where was this plan before? He says he can find Osama bin Laden, PLEASE TELL SOMEONE in the pentagon.

This Joe 6 pack (mind you it is a quality hoppy Ale) will be voting Obama 08 & 12.

Joe 6 Pack

[Theresa]

Obama answered the questions directed to him last night during the debate and gave his plan for health insurance, foreign policies, energy, and the financial ruin we are in. On the other hand McCain did not answer any questions but kept talking about how Obama's plan will cost Americans billions of dollars in taxes. He never talked about his plan and how he would do it differently from Bush. McCain and Palin are both in it for the rich and the coporations prosperity when Obama is in it for the working class of America. McCain - the maveric - waht a joke. I will NOT vote for something or somebody like McCain and his counter part Palin. She is really lost and can only talk about Obama's connections, whethere true or not - NOT. She and McCain need to be brought up on charges for lying to the American public.

[Jack Straw]

Typical Obaby. All he wants is to assign blame. Unfortunately he has NO solutions. I thought it was hilarious when Barry talked about energy and tax breaks for BIG OIL. He must have forgot that he voted FOR Cheney's energy bill that gave the BIG OIL companies tax breaks. Funny how when polls revealed that the majority of Americans favored off shore drilling, Obaby flip flopped and now supports off shore drilling. As usual Barry could provide no details about his alleged plans.

[Amy]

Overall Obama did much better. McCain seems embittered, which doesn't sit well at all.
BUT....I wish 2 things: 1) That some questions had been about education. We need an improved national agenda for preparing our children for a rapidly-changing future. But I fear that with the economic nightmare and Iraq/Afghanistan questions, that any meaningful discussion about this critical issue will be put on the back burner.... yet again.

2) And second, the debate mainly covered the same talking points we've all heard to death already. Some have said they wanted to hear more details, but in so little time, how can anyone have time to spell out those details? The format didn't seem to accomplish anything. (Except to show McCain pacing around uncomfortably like a zoo animal in a cage.)

No change for me. My vote is still solidly with Obama.

[L. Levine]

I actually felt a tad bad for Sen. McCain. It's a shame that he didn't become President in 2000 rather than W. perhaps as I am sure he would have been better. Yes, faint praise. But now he has lost his moral compass and appears unfit to lead the country. How exciting it is to have Obama in the mix as he's bright, thoughtful and compassionate. Each debate has shown the McCain/Palin ticket is not up to the task.

[Marilyn Gilbert]

My vote is for Obama! and I wish he would point out about taxes the following: John McCain keeps talking about how "the Dems" will "raise taxes". But it was actually the Republicans who have raised, and raised, and raised our taxes. They call the $700 billion a "bailout"! But what it really is - is a tax on all Americans to bail out rich Wall Street and Corporation Execs. The billions spent on this unnecessary war is a tax on All Americans for which we get nothing but loss of life, increased terrorism, and unhappy residents of the countries where we keep troops. All of this is a "tax" perpetrated by those who have been in the majority in the White House AND the Congress until very recently!

[Madea, Grayslake, IL]

Please do not waste time talking about smearing of Obama by Mccain. Mccain lost the race a long time ago. These two men can have debates daily that will not change voters' minds. Do you know why? People lost their jobs, houses while the president was not paying attention. These is why we need President Obama.

The jobs were being shipped to overseas the tax payers were no longer paying tax, that meant UNCLE SAME LOST REVENUE. Obama is fresh and gave us all the answers we needed despite the limited time. I totally agree with some one who said "MCCAIN IS STILL OBOSSESED WITH VIETNAM WAR. This is why he want to stay in Iraq indefinate. We lost the war in Iraq a long time ago and we will never be welcomed there any longer. Bush was trying to negotiate with Iraq so that we can stay there a little longer. Do you know why? McBush want to keep us there for ever.

The surge never worked, Iraq people took matters in their own hands and became guards so as to eliminate the fighting.

[catfish]

Solidly Obama.
He was clear and concise, offered real solutions. I wish we could have heard more details - the time constraints leave us with the same old sound bytes

[Hilary109]

I felt truly sorry for McCain, and I felt truly frightened by what is waiting in the wings when he keels over. Dysfunctional delusional modern-day
Aimee Semple McPherson, that's what/who.

[David Currie]

I was starting to buy into McCain's statements about experience.

Experience is important, but there are other things that are WAY more important. Judgment, leadership, disposition, personality, communication and bipartisanship., compassion, openness and toughness. Obama has been pretty consistent in his views and plans and really does speak intelligently on the full range of issues. McCain appeared to be more in marketing mode, but to his credit, he did maintain his cool to a greater degree than we have seen in the past, but McCain has a history as a maverick and a hot head. He spoke about coolheadedness as an important attribute for the office, but I do not seem him as cool headed. I really worry about the concept of a maverick as president. Perhaps its time for the US to SHED its perception as exercising its will in the world without regard for the interests of our allies. We need to NOT be a maverick in the world any more. We need to JOIN the world community in solving problems we can't solve on our own. We put ourselves at enormous risk if we pursue a maverick policy. George Bush is a maverick (at least McCain is smarter!)

Its funny, but I am beginning to see the light with Obama! He combines the intelligence of Al Gore, the approachability of Ronald Regan, and the strength of character of JFK (Remember the Cuban missile crisis?). But he is clearly different than all of them (I don't expect to see a Monica Lewinsky in an Obama presidency). This debate has shown me that Obama has the potential to become

He speaks to me as a sentient, intelligent partner by discussing important policy details about what to do now, not in the repetitive sound bites I get from McCain. The debate has given me great confidence in Obama as a populist and reformer. I truly believe he stands the best chance of coming up with creative and innovative solutions in partnership with world leaders in an open and fair-minded way.

Obama is the guy!

[Jack Haeger]

Obama won, hands down, of course. But I worry about McCain. His behavior suggests the onset of Alzheimer's disease. When asked explicitly to prioritize three things, he said, "We can do 'em all," or words to that effect., and then changed the subject. This may be more than not knowing what "prioritize" means; it suggests that he fails a basic Alzheimer's test, i. e., being able to remember 3 items in sequence. Add this frightening possibility to Palin's reactionary ignorance, and we all have a powerful negative reason to vote for Obama--in addition to the clear fact that his abilities, philosophy, proposed policies, and temperament are exactly what we need to get the country back on track.

[eldon rollins]

McCain defending tax cuts for the fat cats is amazing? Anybody remember Charles Keating? Lincoln Savings and Loan? John McCain.
This recent bailout smells like that, only on a grander scale.

[Kelly]

Obama clearly won because he is more intelligent and his policies make sense. McCain just spews the same conservative nonsense that got us in the trouble we're currently in.
And most of the anti-Obama comments(all be they few)are obviously based on fear of other races.
Obama has the vote of this white, pro-life Christian woman, because he will be the better president.

[A Nana from Alaska]

Obama's priorities are right on target. Smarter and more diverse energy policy to turn the economy around and stabilize world tensions.

Health care a right.

[Lance E Sloan]

In these debates, it is difficult to declare anybody a "winner". However, Obama was decisively more convincing.

[Dan Neuner]

I don't think Obama did as well as usual. He sort of let Mccain lead him into traps.

[Jim Stiven]

Obama easily won the debate with his poise and direct and articulate answers and comments on difficult ssues. McCain was rambling and not impressive.

[cenzo]

I liked how McCain told us Reagan was his hero and then one mintue later said Teddy Roosevelt was his hero...the whole walk softly and carry a big stick talk. Which is the opposite of his strategy with N. Korea and Iran.

[mr biskit]

For the person who called Obama names and asked that we look up all the list of radicals and Obama. I looked up a few and cannot for the life of me figure what even a right wing person would find objectionable in the search results. Those comments I guess are like what Palin has been trying - McCarthy/Crucible type of guilt by association.

For the McCain/Palin recent attack: Bill Ayres is a reformed sixties radical and valuable member of the Chicago area community. Even if he ever was a bad guy, Obama never endorsed him in any way.

On the other hand, McCain was a very close friend of Charles Keating and had many close dealings with him and was a big supporter of Keating. McCain took tens of thousands in campaign donations from him, not just one coffee social fundraiser.. Keating is one of the biggest swindlers that ever cost Americans money.

McCain also actually served on the advisory board to the U.S. chapter of an international group linked to ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. This is very different from going to an unsavory minister's church or being on a non-profit board with somebody unsavory, this was actually being an advisor to what certainly could be called a terrorist organization. This organization had it's non-profit status revoked. This organization had direct connections to the Iran/Contra affair. McCain was a clear supporter when they were doing bad things and only resigned when they started to look bad.

[Cori Gale]

First of all, Bill Ayers is not a bad man. My father was a member of the Weathermen, a 60s political group who were upset at the government for being in an unjust war that was killing American soldiers and even more innocent civilians. There were many political groups in the 60s that rightly so question the tactics of the government. Questioning the government is not a bad thing to do. Dictator regimes don't like you questioning the government. Bush has made this a regime by tearing apart the constitution and doing away with the balances of power. Obama's "association" with activists is because activists, like Bill Ayers, devote their lives to helping others. They are trying to make our country better by working for equality, healthcare for all, and education for all. We are a very class oriented society. We claim to be the best country in the world, yet we were one of the last countries to abolish slavery, our own genocide of the Native Americans killed thousands and even still our courts refuse to honor treaties made with them hundreds of years ago. The point is this country is far from perfect and has many faults, so we need activists to make our country better.

McCain has been very condescending to Obama, and I would argue down right racist. Now they refer to Obama's middle name, which is a common Arab name, suggesting that all Arabs are terrorists. I used to have some respect for McCain, but he has changed to the worse. McCain and Palin refuse to answer questions, much like Bush and Cheney refuse to answer or cooperate to anything questioning them. Obama turned down lucrative jobs on Wall St. to work for and help the poor. McCain pals around with convicted felons like Raffaello Follieri of Italy. Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager continues to this day to receive $15,000 a month from Fannie Mae for doing nothing! Oh by the way, McCain is a billionaire, much of it acquired by marrying the woman he was having an affair with while his first wife was recovering from a devastating accident - Cindy the beer heiress. Character assassination? Please, Obama is ethical, intelligent, and sacrificed his own opportunity to gain wealth to help our country. His background is much more similar to the 'average American' than some would want you to think.

This is the first time I'm voting for someone I passionately admire, someone who questions authority when they abuse their power (like my father questions), someone who is so intelligent and comes from a similar background that a lot of people came from. Sen. Barak Obama is hope, and it is the first time I have felt hope for this country.

[Ana Figueroa]

Obama is the winer... the best, smart anwser question, and solid on his postures. He looks strait on the eyes: he is honest!

[shocked]

Reading the comments above has made me realize how hateful liberals really are. Let's get real people...Obama and McCain are two individuals not that far apart in their views. McCain is a moderate Democrat so why are you all so critical? When McCain wins, he won't be that far off your far left socialistic/communistic views.

What's so sad...is you have all been brainwashed by your liberal Socialist/communistic professors and teachers. And you sincerely believe what you've been taught. You all have brains use them and think for yourself. History does repeat itself...

[tracy]

I had to listen to this over radio for the first 1/2 hr and all I could hear was McCain wheezing as he spoke. He sounds and later I saw, he is an old man that is in no condition for this position. If he was a “maverick” in his “day”, so be it, I will give him that, out of respect. But he is in no shape for this job and so far out of touch he was nothing but a small, fragile, wailing old man on the stage with nothing of substance to say except “my friends” to the nth degree. It was nothing but pathetic. Which leads one to wonder if we are ready for "lipstick on a pitbull" Palin to run things. That is what we are facing if he gets elected.

[Chrissy]

Obama was clearly the winner. His intelligence and leadership ability is very apparent. While I respect McCain's service to our country, I do not feel he is the best choice for president in this election.

[fred]

I think the old relic was on crack last night!

[d Miner]

I work for Karl Rove and he said to tell everyone that you should vote for a third party candidate since both parties are the same. That way McCain can try to steal the election. So remember to vote McC... oops ! I mean Nader, on election day.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Obama definitely won the debate. He is looking more presidential every day. McCain seems fidgety, nasty and rude. He pretends to be for "main street" but his voting record shows he voted with his party, the party of deregulators, 95% of the time. Some maverick!

Obama is cool and collected and intelligent. That is what I want in my president.

[Joy Moody]

McCain has run a discustingly sleazy campaign after stating that only desperate people would do so, & vowing not to himself. He & Palin have no ethics & have no problem lieing to the face of the American people. He has disgraced himself in front of the whole nation.

McCain supporters are confusing bravery with leadership. McCain is no leader. After years & years in Washington he has failed to demonstrate that he can, in fact, work both sides of the isle & bring people together. No reform results. He is an angry man, who did not choose his own path in life, but had it chosen for him by his family. Having a volatile personality & no diplomacy makes him a dangerous choice.

[Louise]

I have little faith in McCain, especially with his choice of Ms. Palin as a running mate. I once lived in Alaska Running that state is like a part time job compared to what others do in the big urban centers throughout the U.S.
When I lived in a town of 7,000 up in Alaska, we did not even have paved roads where we lived. There was a paved road through town, and another going a differnt way to the next town 12 miles from us...
Dealing with huge metro disasters, crisises, pubic health emergencies, police, fire departments, medical centers, huge schools systems, colleges,universities,major transportation systems, along with diverse immigrant populations probably won't be found on her resume. Large groups of the unemployed,
homless families and numerous social service issues need to be considered.Running the military, overseeing the CIA, FBI, and dealing with foreign policies is serious business. This is all part of the US.
She is out of touch, and so is McCain as far as I am concerned.
I live in an urban metro area with a population of 7-8 times the toatal population of Alaska. I think our own county commisioners here are far more experienced to become vice president than she is
since he has chosen her, there is no chance I would vote for him now.
If something happened to him, SHE would be in charge....
SCARY !

[Babsla]

If Barack Obama applied for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service, he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers, a known terrorist.

If he is elected President, he would not qualify to be his own body guard!

(and the majority of the people don't seem to care!) Yikes!

[Deb]

It is the same tired redrick by McCain everytime. He has no idea about the economy, and tries to compare himself with the everyday joe, I do not know about everyone else but I do not have 8 houses, nor do I have a $300k suit and $600 shoes like his wife does, they have no idea how we all live, nor do they care. He has no policy all he does is make snide remarks and personal attacks on Obama. If you even have 1/2 a brain, how could you possible vote for McCain and that dingdong Palin. I have more qualifications then she does to be vice president.

Additionally, does everyone live in la la land? How are you going to pay for the bail out and the other issues without raising taxes? Americans have to take responsibility for their own actions, if you bought a house you could not afford and you ran up your credit cards because you had to have all the toys, tuff for you, I do not want to pay for your stupidity. You were not cheated you chose to ignore.

[Kelly Hennings]

Obama wins, all the way! Every time he speaks, he does so with dignity and class. McCain doesn't even come close!

[barbarossa89]

On substance and style, McCain won hands down. Obama is a lawyer, and it showed. McCain seemed to be saying "You take responsibility for yourself, so long as the rules are followed." Obama seemed to be saying "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you." Which, as Ronald Reagan so famously said, are the ten scariest words in the English language. McCain may not be Reagan, but he is so much better than Obama.

Obama keeps saying "change." Well, he has changed his position on every major issue. Iran used to be a "small country that poses no threat," now it is "a real threat." The only thing he is consistent on is pandering to voters.

Obama is a liar, totally incompetent, and inconsistent. He was on the defensive all night, and didn't really answer questions. If some liberals are annoyed by McCain's "my friends," some conservatives are annoyed by Obama's "Bush policies." Obama voted with Bush 90% of the time. Yes, that's Obama. About the same as McCain, if I remember. On major issues, McCain actually differed about 40% of the time, with Obama closer to 95%. Obama promises to cut taxes for 95% of Americans, when only about 70% pay taxes! How can this be? He is lying. When you take out the lies, McCain wins in a landslide. Otherwise, McCain wins by a somewhat smaller margin.

Obama was just completely out of his depth, seemed nervous and uncomfortable, and had to resort to doublespeak, lying, and breaking the rules of the debate to try to keep his head above water. Sleazy Chicago politics as usual, I saw.

[Lisa]

I believe Senator Obama did an outstanding job. We I see Senator Obama, I see our next president of the United States of Americaa.

[joseph holahan]

It is interesting TO read these comments and to see how uninformed your readers are. DOES ANYONE OUT THERE REALIZE THAT GEORGE BUSH CUT EVERYONES TAXES. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN. GEORGE BUSH CUT TAX RATES FOR EVERYONE NOT JUST THE "RICH". YOU PROBABLY DO NOT KNOW THIS AS THE LIBERAL MEDIA ALWAYS REFERS TO HIS TAX CUTS FOR THE "RICH" . TAX RATES FOR AVERAGE INCOME PEOPLE ARE AT OR NEAR ALL TIME LOWS. DO YOU EVER READ ABOUT THAT IN THE MEDIA? AMAZINGLY OBAMA, WHO OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT POSSESS A DEGREE IN ECONOMICS, THINKS IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO LOWER THESE TAX RATES. I AM SURE HE IS NOT TRYING TO BUY VOTES AS DEMOCRATS HISTORICALLY FAVOR LOW TAX RATES. WOULD YOU LIKE OT BUY A BRIDGE?

[Crash and Burn]

Everyone,

John McCain’s bailout plan is very different plan from the one already passed and from others proposed. This would be A DIRECT BAILOUT OF THE MORTGAGE FRAUDSTERS WHO CAUSED THE CRISIS IN THE FIRST PLACE. This is the GREAT SATAN of BAILOUTS that we all feared coming. This bailout buys the MORTGAGES at INFLATED BUBBLE PRICES from the MORTGAGES FRAUDSTERS and THEN renegotiates the loans for the homebuyers instead of making the mortgage company take a haircut before renegotiating the loan. This plan would be a blatant bailing out the mortgage companies that made all of these bad loans. Upon further review, Obama’s campaign did a “what the heck” as everything proposed before this date was buying up RENEGOTIATED mortgages where the Bank had to take a haircut to at least current prices, which while morally hazardous, could at least be viewed as a pragmatic way of easing the pain of the crisis (and voters). This is not the same plan as previously passed which was to buy at renegotiated prices.

Basically this plan gives homeowners who bought to high a chance to renegotiate their loans to Uncle Sam at current prices, and then calculate the difference from the current loan and the renegotiated loan and UNCLE SAM SENDS A CHECK TO THE MORTGAGE FRAUDSTERS for the FACE VALUE OF THE LOAN. That’s right, not the current value of the mortgage, BUT THE FACE BUBLE VALUE. MCCAIN HAS THE GOVERNMENT PAYING THE MORTGAGE COMPANIES FOR THE GHOST VALUE OF THE HOUSE. THAT’S FREE MONEY TO THE FRAUDSTERS. NO STRINGS ATTACHED. Obama’s campaign couldn’t believe McCain would propose such a RIDICULOUS PAYOFF to the mortgage fraudsters before the election. MCCAINS PLAN IS A BIG FAT BAILOUT of the mortgage companies themselves, but I think BAILOUT is too weak a word, its more A GIVEAWAY, A STEALING of tax dollars to the IDIOTS who started this whole thing in the beginning. This is the WORST OF THE WORST ideas floated, and finally for all of those complaining how McCain and Obama have not been taking a stand (they’re politicians, duh), you can now see the differences even after all of the caution (can’t wait to see how many “tax incentives” to big oil are thrown in the package as well as “stimulus” to give incentives to the oil companies to drill as well).

Now you can finally see that Obama, while acting like a politician that wants to get elected, actually represents his constituents, the middle class of America, and wants to be pragmatic about this crisis while McCain represents only the greedy idiots who got us into this mess in the first place. The fact that some stupid homebuyers would marginally benefit from McCain’s plan is just political gravy for McCain. The CHOICE IS NOW 100% CRYSTAL CLEAR and there is only ONE WAY to STOP this idiocy. WE MUST STOP THE BAILOUT OF THE MORTGAGE COMPANIES BY STOPPING MCCAIN.

[Tom]

It seems McCain is the one who wants big government, how ironic.

[Roy Sonkowsky]

George Bush has been in office for 7 years and 8 months. The
first six years the economy was fine, and moving at a stable predictable
rate.

A little just over one year ago:

* Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;

* The Dollar was strong;

* Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;

* The unemployment rate was 4.5%;

* Most businesses were thriving in our country;

* The DOW JONES hit a record high of 14,000+, and American's
were buying new cars, taking cruises, buying second homes and vacations
houses, we were living large!...;

* The USA was still respected and recognized for our global
commitment!;

* The Dollar was strong, and the world wanted to invest in
the good old USA ;

* Many did not agree with our tactics, but the world saw a
unified America , never seen since world war II.

But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So; in 2006 they voted in a
Democratic Congress & yep; we got 'CHANGE' all right.

In the PAST YEAR and some months:

* Consumer confidence has plummeted;

* Gasoline got to over $5 a gallon, and we have not seen the
end yet!;

* Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase)and rising;

* Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12TRILLION
& prices are

still dropping;

* 1% of American homes are in foreclosure, more to come;

* As I write, THE DOW is probing another low at 11,508;

* $2..5 TRILLION DOLLARS have evaporated from our investment
portfolios;

* The Dollar is at our history's weakest margins;

* The current US Congress (Led by Nancy Pelosi & Joe Biden)
made it a partisan agenda to stall, block, and fight any project of law
that could help the incumbent party in any way!

* Congress has since received the LOWEST public approval
record

in history! Lower than that of their one and only nemesis which
they have set out to destroy with rhetoric and lack of support; Our
President.

YEP, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE!...AND WE SURE GOT
T!!!....Only in America can our own government institution (Laden by the
self serving scum of our society) bring us down to our knees as our
Congress has in 18 months!

NOW OBAMA, SAYS HE'S REALLY GOING TO GIVE US CHANGE!!....

* Increase Income Taxes;

* Increase Capital Gains Taxes;

* Reinstate the Inheritance Taxes to higher levels;

* Withdraw our forces from Iraq (Possibly reversing our hard
won victory);

* Nationalize Healthcare (Now I know I've heard this
before?Yes Michael Moore!) neither have a clue, it just sounds good!;

* Reduce Military spending ( Clinton set us back 10 years;
this clown will have us asking the UN to protect our interests by the
time he gets through!);

* Wants to 'Dialogue' and 'Understand' our worst enemies,
and does not want to seem insensitive by wearing our flag;

* Obama fails to see the need to protect infant life; even
after live birth!

* He is going to achieve all this by crossing 'Party
Lines'!!! An inexperienced Democrat President, with a failed Democratic
Congress in power at the same time? Why would he need to cross any
lines? Obama must think that we are all really stupid!

* Obama denies his Muslim origins by calling himself a
Christian, yet writes in his own book; The Audacity of Hope: 'I will
stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly
direction.'

JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND???.....
Are we blind or just as he thinks we are? Mostly Stupid!!

[Bill]

Voting for a terrorist like Obama will destroy our country......dont be a pinhead.
VOTE MCCAIN if you love the USA!

[Redneck4Obama]

McCain has to be thinking by now, "These people supporting me are total imbecile's, I just hope there's enough of em' to help me win the election?"

[mike]

when was the last time mccain had some vegetables?

i also think it'd be a nice twist to have the entire audience be transsexuals, just to really freak him out.

[Bryan]

In the end, 1 week later, polls have all shown that MCCAIN won the debate. All the "Obama won!" seekers out there were diluting themselves with coolaid.

[Katharine Rekrap]

McCain's reliance on falsehoods and racial incitement shows that he is not prepared to debate the issues. I believe that he and Sarah Palin will be in great part responsible should any of their crazed supporters decide to harm Senator Obama.

[David]

By far, McCain came out on top that has the whole country at heart-- 'spreading the wealth' Obama doesn't resonate well Joe the Plumber, and it doesn't resonate well for me or any American who wants to be rewarded according to their hard work and effort.

[anita]

McCain won - Obama was confused -
Obama - to suave like a car saleman,

[Arvidel]

I think Obama won this debate. McCain just seemed to constantly try to divert my attention away from the real problems that I face every day. I am a registered independent and I have made my decision -- I'll be voting for Senator Obama for President in November. We need a steady hand in the days to come, and McCain just convinced me solidly last night that he is not that steady hand. And I'm sorry but I felt like his age was showing last night, having difficulties speaking clearly and sounded a bit bumbling.

[taylor]

mccain may not be the best but hes way better than obama