Parents of "autism brats" fight back
When Michael Savage, radio talk show host, said July 16 that 99% of children with autism were "brats" who should be told to "cut the act out," one could only wonder if he somehow got his childhood "A" disease diagnoses mixed up. Maybe he was thinking of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, a condition characterized by inattention, hyperactivity and impulsivity. ADHD affects 2 million children and can be treated with behavior modification or drugs, but for many decades, children with the disorder were considered to be just bad kids who misbehaved, and poor parenting was pointed to as the cause.
But autism? Does anyone doubt that it's a significant developmental disorder? It's characterized by poor social interaction, problems with communication -- both verbal and nonverbal -- repetitive activities and hand flapping. Those are problems a 2- or 3-year-old, the age at which the disorder is often diagnosed, would have trouble thinking up.
But when the New York Times gave Savage a chance to explain himself, he said that while his estimate that nine out of 10 kids are faking it might have been a little high, he said he was proud to have prodded a discussion. He stuck by his comments.
Meanwhile, as protesters from Autism United, a coalition of advocacy organizations, gathered today outside the New York City WOR radio studio, which employs Savage, parents such as Martin Schwartzman, whose 15-year-old son Robbie has autism, are up in arms. "I couldn't understand why someone could be so heartless and so insensitive, and also so ignorant for a national talk show host," Schwartzman said on WCBS-TV.
Savage says he's giving over his three-hour broadcast on Monday to a discussion of autism. Meanwhile, Aflac, the insurance company, has withdrawn advertising from the show.
Areva Martin, Los Angeles autism activist and co-founder with Donna Ross-Jones of Special Needs Network, a group whose mission is to educate parents of the rights their children have to an appropriate education, has a lot to say about Savage's comments:
"It would be easy to dismiss Mr. Savage's statements as the antics of a radical, ratings-seeking talk show host. However, Mr. Savage has over 8 million listeners, many of whom rely on his show for reliable information. His insidious and baseless statements give credence to the type of pervasive ignorance that families face on a daily basis. Such statements foster discrimination against not only the disabled, but also against people of color. To suggest that minority families feign a diagnosis of autism to receive welfare benefits is absurd and reflective of the entrenched racism that continues to rear its ugly head.
"If good old-fashioned discipline was a cure for autism, families across this nation would pull out their switches and get to work. Unfortunately, autism is real and there is no cure -- yelling, screaming, hitting and even the most archaic forms of discipline cannot cure what renowned scientists from around the world recognize as a complex disorder that now impacts one in every 150 children, that lasts a lifetime and impacts every aspect of an individual's development. As a parent of a child with autism, a children's rights activist and attorney, I know both personally and professionally that no one would feign autism for the sake of collecting some amorphous government benefit -- it simply isn't worth it. Thousands of hours of therapy, lifelong care, isolation, grief and isolation are too high a price to pay.
"The rapid response of the autism community hopefully will send a loud and clear message that issues of autism impact people of all socioeconomic groups and that issues involving the disabled are matters of human rights."
-- Susan Brink
I'm glad he said it, because now he's pushed too far. He's discredited himself politically and laid bare the hatefulness that lies at the core of all his views on everything.
Posted by: Patricia | July 21, 2008 at 06:52 PM
I suggest that some of these parents, without getting angry, simply organize a breakfast meeting: Mr Savage, plus parents, each one accompanied by his or her autistic child (Mr Savage between two of the children).
This has proven very effective in the past.
Posted by: Sedulia | July 21, 2008 at 06:57 PM
unbelievable... is there no end to Savage's inane commentary?
Posted by: R Perez | July 21, 2008 at 07:03 PM
It is the very nature of conservative talk show hosts to speak out of flaming ignorance just to get ratings and promote their own agenda. It is time they be brought to task for spreading false information.
Posted by: David Coles | July 21, 2008 at 07:07 PM
It seems the article may be right. He must be thinking about ADHD. How on earth could he mean autism? This all may highlight a core problem which is our reliance on journalists and commentators to give us reality. Everything is filtered through anchormen without extensive and intensive knowledge. InfoCream.com has a good page under the query autism. Michael should read it.
Posted by: Paris Roussos | July 21, 2008 at 07:12 PM
This Savage is an ignorant knucklehead for saying what he did. As Ms. Brink pointed out, he's got the wrong affliction - he's likely referring to ADHD or ADD - and even then he's making a statement that flies in the face of considerable research and efforts to treat the illnesses.
Too bad he reaches so many people with his ignorance. Perhaps he could atone by doing a little research about autism and sharing the facts with his audience.
Posted by: Chiron613 | July 21, 2008 at 07:15 PM
Is the concept of "freedom of speech" completely unknown?
Does that freedom no longer apply to those we don't agree with?
What? Someone was offended or disagreed with something the good Dr. said? Well then, let's fire him immediately. We can't have differing opinion in the media now can we?
Posted by: Chad | July 21, 2008 at 07:30 PM
"I couldn't understand why someone could be so heartless and so insensitive, and also so ignorant for a national talk show host,"
You've never heard of Savage Wiener? You have GOT to be kidding me. The man is a cancer on humanity.
Posted by: LKern | July 21, 2008 at 07:31 PM
That is outrageous! I have a 12yr old step daughter with PDD NOS, her symptoms span many disorders; OCD, ADHD, inability to form or maintain relationships, destructive behaviour, loss of touch with reality, auspergers and autisms symptoms. It takes constant discipline, psychiatrists, and a neurologist to keep her from winding up in an institution, her maturity level is that of a 6 yr old. I seriously hope the talk show host did not actually mean what he said, my step daughter will probably live with my wife and I for the rest of her life, unless some unusuall medical breakthrough is made eventually.
Posted by: Jason M. | July 21, 2008 at 07:34 PM
I have taught children with autism for many years - thus far I have not found ANY brats... 'just' kids with ready smiles, inquisitive eyes, love of strawberries, great rhythm ... "Just because" a child with autism may look 'normal' does not mean s/he is not coping with a potentially devastating disability. My students face many challenges - one of the worst is the isolation they face, both via having autism and being seen as 'different'. For anyone - ANYONE - to add to this challenge via such repreehensible words is absolutely unthinkable.
One would hope that people who are paid to speak on the air, on TV or via print journalism have some recognizeable and appreciable skills that helped propel them on their way to recognition. People whose profession brought them recognition from afar ... and much deserved respect. We just lost one of these stars a few weeks ago.
The ONLY thing that this particular radio "talk show host" accomplished was a verbal fart demonstration. His words absolutely lack any (ANY) degree of insight re: autism or, more broadly, how to recognize ANYONE with a disability. Now that he's done with his fetid, foul, malodorous, mephitic, noisome, reeky, stinking, f#rt, we can walk away while holding our breath ... and then find someone else to listen to.
Posted by: Sandy | July 21, 2008 at 07:40 PM
The amazing thing isn't that Michael Savage said something incredibly stupid. The really amazing thing is that this guy has 8 million listeners.
Posted by: Michael Savage Jr. | July 21, 2008 at 07:43 PM
It is very discouraging to a lot of good people when a radio commentator in search of better ratings and publicity does what Michael Savage did. He certainly got his publicity but at what a horrific cost to those parents of Autistic children. There is really no corollary between misdiagnoses and real problems. To say that 99% of kids have been diagnosed inaccurately cannot obviously be correct so the statement can only badly hurt parents that are experiencing the problem. Are there wrong diagnoses? Of course. Does that mean that it is permissible to trash the 60-70% (or whatever) correct diagnoses and utterly destroy those parents that are living with the problem? I don't think so. I believe that it would be just as accurate (or even more so) to say that 99% of those that heard his broadcast were disgusted with Michael Savage. I understand that one large insurance company canceled their advertising on his program. Fantastic. Get him off the airwaves.
Posted by: Jus Ol Al | July 21, 2008 at 07:50 PM
He said 99% of the children who were misdiagnosed with autism were just misbehaving. If he did say what this article alleges, why not quote him? He's not quoted because his words were taken out of context to mean something completely different than he said
Posted by: Jason W | July 21, 2008 at 08:00 PM
What sort of commentary do you expect from any of the cretins foaming at the mouth on AM Right Wing Talk Radio.
I haven't listened to over-the-air radio since streaming audio was introducted on the internet.
Posted by: Rich | July 21, 2008 at 08:08 PM
wow another uneducated, idiotic comment from a neo-con radio talk show host, go figure. i swear these people would have gotten along great with Hitler.
Posted by: gabe | July 21, 2008 at 08:10 PM
I think he did get his "A" childhood diseases mixed up. I might agree, in part, to ADHD, but not to Autism, which is very sad.
I expect he will eventually apologize because he is not correct about Autism.
Can you imagine what other "opinions" from the press are "off" enough to do damage? What happened to just plain journalism, reporting news? Everybody has to have an opinion, sometimes not even an informed opinion, and scream it at us on radio and cable TV. I am sick of them.
Posted by: TJ | July 21, 2008 at 08:24 PM
I have taught autistic children, and I can tell you, they are not brats. This is a real and very complicated disorder ranging from near normal behavior to anti-social behavior with many other serious deviant behaviors. Where and how did this man ever get information? He is so off-base. I have seen the struggles of the children and the hopeless heartbreak of the parents. Each have been robbed of what normalcy of the family structure should be. The autistic child most often doesn't know what "normal" is within our society.
Go spend a weeks at a school with an autistic child, then find the family and ask if you can follow their daily and nighttime routines with their autistic child. Then you give it a try. Let us know, then, if they are brats or disordered children.
Mr. Savage's statement reflect his name. They ARE Savage!!! Shameful! Get educated about a subject before you speak your rude and damaging remarks. You are sadly mistaken on this one, buddy!
Posted by: breal1 | July 21, 2008 at 08:37 PM
Mr. Savage represents the class of individual who neither knows what he is talking about, nor does he understand what the diagnosis of Autism does to the individual and their families.
It is truly sad that these kind of radio personalities exist.
Posted by: Dale Moore | July 21, 2008 at 08:44 PM
Susan, maybe you should read the transcript from his show that day, and just perhaps you might find yourself practicing journalism for a change. instead of writing about your own personal brand of thinking. Try and save the gossip for recitative's and neighbors. Savage's own brother was AUTISTIC, not to mention his comments were directed at the medical and pharmaceutical folks for miss diagnosing these kids just to sell more drugs to them for life. Maybe a little research on the story you are writing? Who knows, real journalism may pop out now and then! PS - your employer (LA Times) has no credibility left because of all the false or you might even say lies they put in print like your miss-guided story. (stop reading all the left blogger's to get your stories.) Mike
Posted by: mike | July 21, 2008 at 08:45 PM
Thanks for this well written article. I wish I'd heard the original show andf I will now make a point of visiting his website Savage Nation to listen to both.
I suggest someone have Mr Savage spend a weekend with one or two of the many autistic children relegated to the arms of foster care and orphanages because their parents were unable to provide the resources needed to care for them and their special needs. There's nothing like real experience to see how little we know.
Posted by: Kath | July 21, 2008 at 08:58 PM
As a mildly autistic adult I am way past offended by this. Aflac has withdrawn advertising and we're going to see how many other advertisers we can influence. I suffer discrimination all the time because I'm just a bit different than most ... I'm looking forward to helping to teach a lesson here.
Posted by: Neal R | July 21, 2008 at 09:03 PM
I am not surprised by Mr. Savage's remarks. He is constantly in search of someone or some group to insult on his program. If he is half right I would accuse him of simply being insensitive. But his idiotic views about a lot of topics speak volumes of his rooted bigotry and racism. A case in point: before this episode, he made numerous offensive and often racist statements against Arabs and Muslims. To me his talk show is nothing more than "noise pollution" but I feel sorry for the 8 million people who waste their time listening to this rubbish.
Posted by: SAS, Washington DC | July 21, 2008 at 09:20 PM
It was mentioned that American Parents would simply pull out their switches and get to work if discipline were the cure for autism...
While I think its a bold misapplication, I also think its a HUGE overestimation of American Parents. Discipline went out sometime after 1970. Just like some kind of fashion that never came back in style (but was sorely needed) discipline faded from the scene. Parents who resorted to it were called barbaric if they were confronted at all. Many simply called the authorities. Recent generations are poorly behaved and everyone wonders why.
Children bring guns to school not to show off, but for the purpose of murdering scores of others and people wonder why.
Religion has nothing to do with it, Autism has nothing to do with it, its simply poor parenting, coupled with the "Its not MY fault" syndrome wherein parents blame teachers, schools, police, then ultimately (before the death sentence is pronounced) society.
This radio show host is just grabbing headlines.
But he IS correct that todays parents need to be more hands on (full pun intended).
Posted by: Kuroyama | July 21, 2008 at 09:28 PM
I am the parent of a child with autism. He is 8 years old. Thankfully, he was diagnosed before he was 2 and got the help he needed. He is now in second grade and functions in a normal classroom with an aide and does fairly well, but this child does not talk as a normal person would. He echoes what he hears. He can't get his pronouns correct. He can't distinguish between "you" and "me". At first we thought he was deaf because he didn't respond to stimuli as a neuro-typical child would. He is fairly well behaved and we can trust him to do some things on his own because he is fairly high functioning. But, it would only take Mr. Savage a short while of living with this boy to understand that this is a brain disorder. I challenge Mr. Savage to come to my house and work with my son for a month and then see what he says.
Posted by: Charles B. | July 21, 2008 at 09:31 PM
the guy is a moron. why give him any attention at all... let him hang himself with his own ignorance.... we oughttta pray for him because clearly his own head issues are far more destructive than autism...
Posted by: bob Manganelli | July 21, 2008 at 09:36 PM
Michael Savage's comments truly bring to light how ignorance in the entertainment industry drives some entertainers to be in the spotlight. Unfortunately, Mr. Savage brings this ignorance to others, which influences perception. As a parent of an autistic child, the ignorance he brought forward adds to the uphill fight every relative of an autistic child must endure. In my opinion, Mr. Savage should be fined hundreds of hours in community service at a school for autism.
Posted by: ParentofAutisticChild | July 21, 2008 at 09:41 PM
I am a father of a 3 1/2 year old boy with autism.. Savage is an idiot. He commented, apparently, that "he knows true disability", having had a brother with a "severe disability". Savage does not know anything about disabilities, no matter his family connection.
Savage will be found to be the raging fool that he is, and, hopefully, his voice will be silenced. What irony for his insane comments about children who often have no clear voice. He is also a coward. Try finding any way to comment on his ridiculous website.
Savage is a fool.
Posted by: John Cohrs | July 21, 2008 at 09:45 PM
This is not the first time that Savage is out there offending people and pretending to talk competently on issues he is clearly uninformed.
I am only glad that someone finally was brave enough to stand up against him. It his high time for WOR to replace him.
He brought numbers and attention, but they should not let him destroy what they have built for years including the fruits of his own work. Just sack him
Posted by: Ruben | July 21, 2008 at 09:58 PM
he should not be fired-free speech
but we are all free to boycott his advertisers
and let them know why you will not do business with them
you are free to extol any opinion you want.
just dont whine about the consequences
i dont listen nor do i care what he says
but callous statements like his are a good reason to
reduce his financial earning power
please will someone let all of us know who advertises
on his show
so we can avoid those business'
Posted by: dick bohanon | July 21, 2008 at 11:09 PM
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A TWISTED ,SICK HOMOPHOB WHO'S TRYING TO COME TO GRIPS WITH HIS OWN SEXUAL HANGUPS{IN MY OPINION}... SOCIOPATHIC MENTAL MIDGET WHO SUFFERS FROM DELUSIONS OF GRANDUER AND AN UNHEALTHTY HATERED OF HIS FATHER{IN MY OPINION} ...IS GIVEN A VENUE TO SPREW HATEFUL,INFLAMMATORY AND DIVISIVE REMARKS THAT IS MEANT TO DEMEAN ,ANTAGONIZE ,SHOCK AND DISGUST A NORMAL PERSON'S SENSIBILITY ALL IN THE NAME OF RATINGS WHICH=SPONSORS WHICH=ADVERTISEMENT WHICH=$$$$,,, IN THE GLORY DAYS GONE BY AN IRATE FATHER MIGHT HAVE TAKEN OF HIS GLOVE SMACKED ole savage ACROSS THE FACE AND DEMANDED SATISFACTION BUT ALAS THOSE CHIVALROUS DAY HAVE LONG PASSED AND FREE SPEECH AND VARIOUS FEDERAL,STATE AND LOCAL LAWS DOESNOT ALLOW POPPING A CAP IN SCROUNDRELS NO MATTER HOW DESERVING{OOOOHHHHH HOW I LONG FOR THOSE GLORY DAYS|} {THIS IN NOWAY ADVOCATE VIOLENCE AGAINST ANY OF THE NUMEROUS MENTAL MIDGETS WHO EVERY DAY CONTAMINATE THE VARIOUS MEDIA VENUES WITH THE SAME OR LIKE GARBAGE ........I'M JUST VENTING
Posted by: brkdckdwg | July 21, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Mr. Savage's statements is comes from a man who hasn't a clue about this condition. He hasn't a clue about vaccines that have caused autism. He is an old, obnoxious, simple-minded, conservative rambling, fool. Hey Savage, any dope that listens to you and actually believes you know something, has a brain that is solid rock!
Savage is the kid that should have been whacked because he was a brat, years ago! Sit down fool, and quit Savagely trashing people that can't defend themselves!
Posted by: Savage Stupid | July 22, 2008 at 02:37 AM
Sorry to say he is right, Iam a medical professional and most children are just that "spoiled brats" with parents that have never taught the child to mind, yes there are some true autism children, but its much easier to label the child with
"autism" and use it as an excuse for the childs behavior. Also the schools love it because they get more money for every "disablility" child the same goes for
so called ADD, its mostly a scam by certain medical professionals, psych professionals and govt to excuse the childs behavior and give the parents a way out of being responsible for the child.
Posted by: bill | July 22, 2008 at 04:36 AM
Michael "Savage" Weiner's comments about autism are consistent with his approach to all subjects - to appeal to an audience of ignorant, dim witted, angry, bigoted, fools. That's why he calls himself Savage instead of using his real name, Weiner. Do you suppose that's because his show "Savage Nation" wouldn't go over so well with his audience demographic if it were known as "Weiner Nation?"
Posted by: Lefty | July 22, 2008 at 05:34 AM
I think Mr. Savage should be willing to personally back up his challenge to every parent of an autistic child. If Mr. Savage is convinced, I suppose by virtue of his Ph.D. in herbal medicines, that all autistic children have no disease whatsoever and can be cured by parental discipline, I propose that Mr. Savage should offer to personally prove his point. Give Mr. Savage one child who has been medically diagnosed as autistic for a week, and see if his superior parenting skills can demonstrate that the medical diagnosis is wrong and that the child can be educated out of the autistic state. In fact, I think Mr. Savage should bet his future career on it. If he is so right, then he himself can prove that he can make an autistic child non-autistic through "proper parenting". If he succeeds, then he has proven his point beyond a shadow of a doubt. If he fails, then he owes every parent of an autistic child (including this writer) a public apology as the very last message heard on radio from Mr. Savage for the rest of his career. Deal?
Posted by: S. Hicks | July 22, 2008 at 07:27 AM
Michael has bump his head, He has no clue about mental health issues, He has a cold heart to people and when it come to minorities he is a bigot and as racist as they come. He and other like him should not be on the air I don't care what color they are if you mouth get to big for the mike then it time to go. You think you can tell people that live with children with this illness they are fakes? Hell no. The only people that don't have a clue about this illness are those who don't live with it. Michael think that he know what best for everyone This guy don't know jack about nothing. all he know how to do it to bad mouth people that hs done nothing to him, Oh Michael do you know there are white people with children that have the same illness. I guess not since you fix your mouth to only talk about minorities. Your moma should have told you to look both way before you cross the road.
Posted by: Bernard | July 22, 2008 at 08:28 AM
Once again an idiot with a microphone has tested the range of common decency in this country. And the nieve' US public will flock to his show and play right into his hands. Guess what folks, the name of the game is ratings and you are giving him just what he, his network, and his sponsors want-- attention and lots of it.
What this man and others like him deserve is a good old fashioned SHUNNING.
Don't notice his crude remarks, don't publicize his sick show, don't acknowledge his disgusting presence on the planet. Ignore him and ignore his sponsors. Show him that our sick children, our races, our ethnic groups, and his disgusting opinions are not for public entertainment. We are becoming a nation of fools.
Posted by: Sandy F. | July 22, 2008 at 08:29 AM
Check out
http://www.savagestupidity.com/boycott.html
Follow the money. I urge that a list of all advertisers on Savage's show be immediately contacted by the news media. They can't both benefit from sales to members of his stupid audience then distance themselves from the hatred which brought them there. Corporate sponsors aren't stupid about their demographic, insurance company AFLAC knew what they were doing, for example. Its working already!
Tempur-Pedic, Inc. abandons the Savage Nation, demands removal from site!
"We are not advertisers and therefore should not be subject to spending time answering your followers’ boycotting threats."
Source: email to this site, dated April 18th, 2003
Posted by: Greg George | July 22, 2008 at 08:43 AM
as per their website, here are the advertisers on the Talk Radio Network which markets Mr. Weiner's Savage Nation (and yes, that is his name ...While in the South Pacific, he became fascinated with the 19th-century sailor Charles Savage, who was believed to be the man that first brought firearms to Fiji.) Call, write them, and the other shows that they advertise on -
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Posted by: stacey | July 22, 2008 at 09:05 AM
Oh, and Weiner / Savage's son, Russell, is the founder of the company that produces the Rockstar energy drink, where his Weiner / Savages wife Janet serves as chief financial officer.
Posted by: stacey | July 22, 2008 at 09:06 AM
Mr. Savage and his ilk spread easy anwers, half truths, and misinformation so efficiently that it hinders the ability to get credible information to people who could use it. Mr Savage is apparently too lazy and arrogant to cultivate the discipline required to respect and listen to people who know more that he does about a given subject.
This is also true of many talk show hosts who are giving the public excuses to believe readliy available hogwash while ignoring the hard work of legitimate experts. The most famous of these dropped out of parent-financed college after only one year, and know gets paid $400 million to tell millions of people it's okay to ignore science and listen to his crackpot ideas.
Posted by: Charles Wehring | July 22, 2008 at 09:06 AM
Beyond the shocking hyperbole, what he did say that was so untrue? Autism is a spectral disorder which is difficult to classify from case to case.
Posted by: Chris | July 22, 2008 at 09:09 AM
"However, Mr. Savage has over 8 million listeners, many of whom rely on his show for reliable information."
It doesn't fare well for the country if listeners are actually going to his show for "reliable information". The audience should listen only because he says what they like to hear, but they should never take anything they heard with them back into the real world or they'll have a very twisted worldview.
Posted by: T-Bone | July 22, 2008 at 09:23 AM
While I agree that Savage's remarks are ridiculous, I am disturbed by Ms. Brink's comments about ADHD. While defending the legitimacy of one developmental disorder (autism), she backhand slaps another by suggesting that Savage may have confused the two. Both autism and ADHD are legitimate developmental disorders, described in the DSM-IV and recognized by physicians worldwide. ADHD, prima facie, is no less disabiling for those who suffer from it. The fact that there are helpful treatments does not make ADHD any less "significant". Is diabetes insignificant because there are helpful treatments available? What about cardiovascular disease or cancer?
One cannot pick and chose which spurious generalizations are socially acceptable. The reality is that, like many other developmental, neurologic, and psychologic conditions, one need not look far for evidence that both autism and ADHD are the result of deficits in chemical messengers and neuronal behavior in the human brain. Ms. Brink's remarks mirror the mainstream notion that ADHD is a made-up condition (by parents, by doctors, by its victims, take your pick of whipping posts). Individuals with autism and ADHD alike deserve understanding and respect. Ms. Brink's attempt to call attention to spoken injustices towards autism is undermined by her comments about ADHD. Only by facilitating a culture of respect and understanding towards ALL developmental disorders (as well as psychological, neurologic, and other "hidden" disorders), can one make true strides towards acceptance of any individual condition.
Posted by: Emily | July 22, 2008 at 09:24 AM
He makes a valid point that things like autism and ADHD are diagnosed way to often especially since there are no tests or definitive proof. Then the kids go on meds and if they were only minorly screwed up before they sure are after that.
Too bad this thread is full of waaahhhhh my poor self, my poor child, omg its so insensitive, blah blah blah. What ever happened to freedom of speech or agreeing to disagree? If you don't agree with him don't listen. FYI your life story doesn't mean its the same for everyone else. All these "you should come to my house" yeah you probably have an authentically autistic child. I have a couple friends who have kids diagnosed with ADHD that I think is suspect. Now they're on medication which will leave deposits of metals and other drugs in their body for life.
Posted by: Cryos | July 22, 2008 at 09:25 AM
I listened to Savage (not his real name) exactly one time. I came to the conclusion that he is either an idiot or a charlatan or both, and further, that anyone who listened to him would necessarily be an idiot, too. As to this latest diatribe, I rest my case.
Posted by: Terry | July 22, 2008 at 09:28 AM
The more blogs you read the more truth you see in the "nation of whiners" comment. America is becoming a country void of intelligence and full of over compassionate, whiny babies that are becoming unable to accomplish anything.
Posted by: Cryos | July 22, 2008 at 09:29 AM
Just like the airline with the poor mother and son kicked off the plane a month prior... typical bully(ies) to attack the weak and to allow for such discrimination to continue on... this guy's ignorance goes above and beyond. At the same time, my family doesn't want to give him the rewards of more publicity in response to his spouting off without clear knowledge. Who would hire such a person?
Posted by: Diane Zanghi | July 22, 2008 at 09:31 AM
Free speech does not absolve a person of speaking responsibly. Dr. Savage's comments about autistic persons were more like the insane ravings of a lunatic than the considered opinion of an educated, thoughtful individual. I have an autistic grandson and he is anything but a brat. He does everything he can to try to please but still lacks the understanding and communication skills to succeed each and every time. Parents are going bankrupt to pay for their ASD kids' therapy -- why would they risk their financial futures if simple discipline was all that is needed?
Posted by: Linda in WI | July 22, 2008 at 09:33 AM
I've heard the guys show and people are getting way too offended here. The drive home is so boring that sometimes it's entertaining to hear some guy blow up on the radio. At this rate of political correctness it will be just like on old movies of the future where everybody dresses in three different colors of the same outfit and lives in some brainwashed utopian society.
Posted by: peterg | July 22, 2008 at 09:37 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Savage suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder!!
How clever he must think he is to try and twist it around to make it seem like he was only speaking of the wrongly diagnosed.
Thankfully we are not ALL as hateful and sick as he is.
Posted by: Lizzy | July 22, 2008 at 10:00 AM
I cannot believe you people. I have a child with autism and really you are over reacting. I am disgusted that you find these comments appalling of autism but totally understand where he is coming from if he meant to say ADHD. That is a double standard if ever I heard one. What is not okay for your child with autism is okay for children with ADHD. You ought to be ashamed to think this way. His comments were ignorant and outrageous. It is not because he is a conservative radio host, or a right winger. It is because he does not understand and does not care to understand. You are just as bad as he is if you are going to place all conservative radio hosts into a category of ignoramuses. You are no better than he. Focus on the education of a nation of the challenges that autistic people and their families face. Don't attack the man or call for his resignation. If people hear this, some will agree, yet more will find out for themselves if what he says is true. If you want people to be informed, inform them. What amazes me still is that parents who have children with autism rally when something like this happens yet praise people like Jenny McCarthy for her ignorant comments about vaccinations. Something by the way that has not been proven by the scientific community to be true, yet she talks about it like there is no doubt even spouting off that she will never have another of her children immunized. If you fight one, fight them all. In these cases though I see it to be more productive to place the correct information out there rather than attack those who don't understand.
Posted by: Leo's Mom | July 22, 2008 at 10:06 AM
You can go to the Aflac site and THANK THEM for withdrawing their advertising dollars from WOR and Mr. Savage.
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Posted by: Lizzy | July 22, 2008 at 10:14 AM
I worked with autistic children for many years - from ages 2 to 12. During that time I visited their homes and met with their families. It was enlightening to see their environments and to get to know their parents and siblings. Some had bedrooms like cells. Some parents had emotional difficulties themselves. Some simply did not know how to parent very well. They wanted someone else to solve their problems. They were all of higher socio-economic status - educated and well -to- do. It was amazing to see the effects of in-depth conversation and attention given to the children. Autism is little understood. I observed that behavior modification techniques had some good results. Changes in diet had great effects also. Many of them were given sugary foods for breakfast and lots of fast foods. In later years when meeting some of these children they exhibited fewer symptoms of autism, were quite enjoyable and doing well in school. They were all extremely bright, had a sense of humor and craved attention. One grandmother observed that she had emphasized diet concerns and made changes in foods when she took care of the child. She made sure that she encouraged her daughter to do the same and she succeeded. One child had an older brother who was autistic. His behavior was largely learned.
So, there are no easy answers for sufferers of autism - parents and children.
One thing is certain. Negative and harsh techniques are not helpful.
Firm positive reinforcement is always needed.
Michael Savage is an entertainer - like Rush Limbaugh. They say things to get ratings. They are not experts on any subject.
Change the dial.
Posted by: Nan | July 22, 2008 at 10:21 AM
kids with these issues are often ruthlessly harassed and bullied. Now, the bullies have a national spokes"man" in Michael Savage. Now the schoolyard bullies will have an extra reason to make it harder than ever for them -- he's really hurt some kids here, it's a tragedy. For the people who listen to him, it's time for you to wake up and turn off the radio and get to know some real families who are dealing with this.
Posted by: Paul | July 22, 2008 at 10:38 AM
"However, Mr. Savage has over 8 million listeners, many of whom rely on his show for reliable information."
It doesn't fare well for the country if listeners are actually going to his show for "reliable information". The audience should listen only because he says what they like to hear, but they should never take anything they heard with them back into the real world or they'll have a very twisted worldview.
Posted by: T-Bone | July 22, 2008 at 10:56 AM
RE BOB:
as a medical professional, you should know more than anyone how hard it is to actually diagnose a child with autism. you cant just slap a label on them, give them drugs and the school cleans up with extra money. do you realise how much paperwork, time, meetings, evaluations, COST, etc etc goes into this??
also, ADD and autism are not considered the same medical condition.
THANK YOU COME AGAIN.
NEXT.
Posted by: bob | July 22, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Savage and right wing "angry" radio does need an old fashion shunning. "Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?" Unfortunately, it's not being correct they are interested in, it's who they make angry. So all these very well informed and articulate opinions only spur on his 80 million listeners; who love to stick it to the "elites." So they know no shame, and have no sense of decency.
Money - follow the money and cut it off. Shun his sponsors. Make them pay a price for using our airwaves hate to sell their wares using these kinds of publicity hounds. Only when their pocket books suffer will they stop feeding the ignorance pushers.
Posted by: David M | July 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM
To say that Michael Savage is an idiot is like saying the ocean is wet. He reminds me of the many people I have run into in the store that give me that stare as my child has a tantrum, because he is over-stimulated, as if to say "Can't you control your child?"
Still, I encourage you all, if you haven't already done so, to contact your local affiliate that carries his show and demand that they drop his show. To continue to carry this idiot is a tacid endorcement of his hate and should not be tolerated.
Posted by: Scott Taylor | July 22, 2008 at 02:50 PM
I live in the L.A. area. What is the name of the local affiliate staion that carries this imbecile's show?
Posted by: Harry Fisher | July 22, 2008 at 03:46 PM
Though not a fan of Michael Savage, I feel he brought up a good point. Many children(not 99%) diagnosed with behavioral disabilities are just not very well raised, attention seeking kids.
Posted by: Mike | July 22, 2008 at 05:31 PM
The actions against Savage illustrate ignorance and compliance with the disease that Savage is fighting against and you should too.
It's the drug companies stupid. They want money *** ANYWAY *** they can get it..
Similar to interlocking corporate directorships, the medical & psychological practitioners are intimately interlinked with the drug companies who are interlocked with big media who are interlocked with the political machine (the government media complex). Last week the federal government stole $50,000,000,000 ($50 Billion) of US tax-payer money for drug companies, Africa and AIDS. I do not remember voting to authorize any of this do you?
Everywhere you turn there are advertisements in the newspapers, radio, television, internet for *** drugs *** to take care of problems we never knew we had.
The brainwashing has the culture believing that "every problem looks like a nail", and drugs are the hammer.
They are hammering your kids just to make a buck and using Autism is just one of the many ways.
Instead of supporting a virtuous position like Savage, the sheeple side with the disease. Greed yes, but virtue never heard of it.
The *** disease is greed *** and sheeple will not see it. Only a knee-jerk reaction to half-truths put out by the machine.
Hopefully the sheeple will reconsider and get on board! It's not too late.
Else the sheeple will be shorn!
Max...
Posted by: Max | July 22, 2008 at 07:14 PM
As the parent of a six-year old daughter w/ autism, I would love to "thank" Michael Savage in person. I just can't wait for the next time my daughter is having a break-down in public for one of his zombies to come up to me and tell me how to handle my child. I'll be sure to express my appreciation.
My daughter is not independent in ANY area, she needs help dressing, eating, communicating, toileting. She eats things that are not food. She has behavioral agression. I stay home and work w/ her full time, along w/ a fleet of therapists. She is NOT neglected. This isn't a result of bad parenting. Their BRAIN STRUCTURE is different. They have identified genetic structures that are abnormal. Our family has taken a huge financial hit for me to stay home w/ her to work w/ her, but it has been worth it and she is progressing.
My daughter has so many issues, yet is so sweet and loving. This is so egregious in so many ways.
To all those people quoting the first ammendment to justify his not being fired: We are also expressing our first ammendment rights to call for his firing. He can say what he wants, but we can also demand advertisers pull from his station, and that he be terminated for being a public nusance. Remember, this is a "free market" economy. No one is entitled to a job.
Posted by: rjgwood | July 22, 2008 at 07:57 PM
Adolph Hitler could have used a mouthpiece like Savage to convince the German people to prod the disabled into death camps.
Posted by: Marvin | July 22, 2008 at 08:01 PM
How unfortunate for this man.......savage to be so ignorant. I am the mother of two beautiful, well loved, well behaved, kind hearted and wonderful boys who happen to have Autism. I am an educated professional and I have raised my children the way most of us parents believe we should when undertaking the responsibility of parenting - and that is to do the best parenting we possibly can. Even under the circumstances I know I have done the best I could and I dont complain about having two children with Autism, I embrace it. Ignorance is bliss, so please don't assume you know how to raise or care for children with Autism unless you are a parent, caregiver, or educator who has devoted themselves to the well being of a child who was properly diagnosed with Autism. To those of you who are deticated and who get it - my thanks and sincere gratitude to you. For those of you who dont - open a book and perhaps learning about Autism might give you a better perspective on which to speak.
"Imagine all the people - living life in Peace" I believe John Lennon said it best.
Posted by: Susie | July 22, 2008 at 08:52 PM
Michael Savage. I cringe whenever I hear his voice on the radio. His hate speech is repulsive to me as an American. I cannot believe my country has sunk so far as to call his schtick "entertainment". At last he has said something that nobody can really defend. Hopefully, this will be the last I hear of him.
Posted by: Natacuy | July 22, 2008 at 10:41 PM
In a hate filled broadcast a failed author moonlighting as a shock jock attacks children disabled by autism and insults their parents saying their lack of mental abuse towards children such as insults and name calling, how he was raised, has merely made them brats with parents running a racket and scam against the system. He compares it to how asthma is abused and accuses non-Caucasian races of using that as their racket to scam money and services.
Dr. Michael Alan Weiner A.K.A. Michael "Savage" is an uninformed loudmouth who abuses the limits of basic respect to garner publicity for himself. He will spew whatever he has to as the attention brings him hits for those foolish enough to advertise and associate with him. Under the First Amendment he has a right to this free speech and as consumers we have a right to not only boycott his foolish books but every single business that advertises with him and any subsidiary of them. Give them not a single penny more. Write to them and let them know you are boycotting them and starting a boycott movement in your social circle against them for their blatant support and standing firmly by the fecal matter falling out of Weiner's mouth. No revenue means he becomes a liability and loses funding to pursue his personal vendetta against everybody else in the world. This is the only true way to "fire" vermin like Weiner.
Free speech should be protected even when abused by blowhards like Weiner. But that does not mean as consumers and decent citizens and human beings we cannot organize in mass groups like the NAACP and move to stop giving one cent to any business that supports him. Rosa Parks. Montgomery, Alabama 1955. We can fight back and force our views to be heard and respected.
Please pass this along to everybody you know through email, blogs, other sites, comments, word of mouth and any other means of communication possible. If you know the businesses supporting Michael Weiner with advertising please include them as things are passed along so a list can grow of who will never see another penny while they support this misguided cretin.
The following companies are anti-Autism and anti-Muslim and anti-Non-Caucasian and gladly support Michael Alan Weiner's hate mongering on his "Savage" radio show: Wyeth Consumer Healthcare (Chapstick, Advil, Robitussin, Centrum) (800) 322-3129. MyPyramid.gov (888) 779-7264. stamps.com. Rockstar Energy drinks. You can also email Weiner at: michaelsavage at paulreveresociety dot com. Or Call his radio show between 6-9PM ET here: 800-449-8255.
Posted by: ReapWhatYouSow | July 23, 2008 at 12:39 AM
So many of the comments posted here are typical of Liberals. Liberals seem only to believe in free speech as it pertains to their views: “Free speech for me, but not for thee.” Michael Savage feels/believes that Autism is over diagnosed and is used pharmaceutical companies and supported our over prescribing medical profession. Is he not entitled to voice that opinion? I guess not. We have gone to an extreme when the heads of radio talk show hosts are called for because we don’t agree with their politics or views. I don’t agree with Keith Oberman, yet I defend his RIGHT to speak his mind and present his view. That’s what makes our country great, we can present differing opinions on subjects and spark dialog. You people ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Liberals indeed.
Posted by: Carlo DeBlasio | July 23, 2008 at 06:11 AM
Wow. Do you people even understand the word 'opinion'? Talk radio is an opinion news source. It does not hide that fact and radio commentators make their stances clear, particularly Dr. Savage. If you people actually listened to the show you'd know this man is all for rugged individualism and pure Darwinism (only the strong survive). That's his point of view. It is unforgiving and 'mean' to some people but not everyone. There are millions of people whom agree with this and millions who do not. You get to make up your own mind by tuning in or not. Let the man have his free speech. If people didn't like what he was saying, they wouldn't listen and therefore no one would advertise. Wait until you learn about his position on spanking.
Opinion pieces are full of these sort of shock statements. Go read your local newspaper's opinion section. Quite frequently I find something in there that's so absolutely infuriating I want to cancel the paper. Go turn on the TV and watch one of the big nightly news shows. There's several times I've been so irritated by something Chris Matthews or Bill O'Reilly said that I've stopped watching their shows for weeks or months at a time. Savage is no different. Pick and choose who you want to listen to or watch instead of trying to make the decision for everyone else.
Running around complaining, attacking advertisers, and collectively freaking out with pals about some words someone said shows just how thin-skinned people are these days. You'd all do yourselves a favor by simply tuning out what you don't want to hear and focusing on what you do want to hear -- not going around trying to get everyone to accept your particular point of view or else you'll boycott.
Also, yes, I do expect people to control their children. If you have an autistic kid running around in front of the screen at a movie theater you better move him/her out of the way fast. If you have a baby screaming its lungs out in the middle of a packed waiting room, I expect you to show some courtesy and take that baby aside until it calms down. If I take a leashed tame water dragon into a pet store on my shoulder and you and your child freak out, I expect that we'll just keep our distance from each other rather than you screaming at management. Learn how to live and let live.
Posted by: Josh | July 23, 2008 at 07:04 AM
The children are not the morons here, but Michael Savage sure is!! He should do research before he opens his stupid mouth. How disgusting that a grown man (supposedly) can call children names (must have been a real winner in school)!! Well he still is a LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Posted by: Anna | July 23, 2008 at 07:38 AM
Clearly there is a problem in this nation with overdiagnosing of children and adults with many afflictions, however, there is also CLEARLY a problem with autism as well. My brother is a level 9 autistic...which is very rare and the most severe form of autism. He is 37 years old and hasn't ever gotten any proper treatment (because America doesn't ilke to take care of the handicapped no matter WHO is in office). In fact, my parents were told it was THEIR fault their beautiful boy who had a severe reaction to his DPT shot when he was 10 months old went from smiling, hugging and pointing to screaming, unaffectionate and violent to himself and others.
I see kids that are called autistic that can talk and wonder how it's possible they could have anything close to my brother, but, that is the very nature of this problem - it's a spectrum discorder. My cousin has Asperger's Syndrome, a form of autism, and he makes animated movies - so there we have it - it's incredibly vast in scope.
It's beyond obvious that Savage needs to apologize to the parents of autistic children. As a far right conservative, I could care less WHO says something like this and their political viewpoints or what their brother who was put in an institution to die had wrong with him. Attack parents that choose not to raise their kids, not their "bratty" children who can't help their parents are morons. My parents still have my brother...and deal with broken bones he gives them and holes in their walls and countless trips to the emergency room - call parents that don't deal with that, like HIS parents didn't, trash - because that is what they are.
At least today, when I tell people my brother is autistic, they don't ask if he is a painter - and that is not an exaggeration.
Posted by: Rachel | July 23, 2008 at 08:30 AM
He brought light to the fact that there are MANY misdiagnosis and too many drugs being tossed around out there. This problem takes away time and resources on the Real plague on our children that has no cure.
Posted by: Lisa | July 23, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Great article...here is the link to the audio youtube that you may not have heard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0U7HjzUe54
I'd really love it if you could link to us--
http://mediamatters.org/
Brandon Hersh~
Posted by: Brandon Hersh | July 23, 2008 at 12:37 PM
I disagree with Savage. He's absolutely, positively WRONG! He hasn't spent nearly enough time with truly autistic people to have a clue what the heck he's talking about. I have eighteen years raising a kid with autism. He's not "faking it to get attention." I suspect he might have confused Autism with ADHD, which I agree is WAY over-diagnosed.
Now, should Savage be fired? No. I can disagree with someone without wanting his head on a platter. I challenge him to spend some time educating himself on the topic. As far as free speech goes, The original intent of the 1st Amendment was to protect POLITICAL speech; and that's from GOVERNMENT suppression. We've adapted that to cover almost ALL forms of speech. Savage has the right to say stupid things and I have a right to not listen to his show. That's how it works. If enough people decide they don't want to listen to him, his station and syndicates will have to make a business decision. I'm not calling for a boycott. I'm just saying what I intend to do. Again, that's how Free Speech works.
Posted by: Elogam | July 23, 2008 at 06:06 PM
8 million people listen to Michael Savage? Do they really think his nonsensical rants represent "reliable information?" I certainly hope not.
Autism isn't the first topic about which he's pretended to be an authority. He's a fool and should be dismissed as such.
Posted by: joan | July 24, 2008 at 03:40 PM
Dan Savage is a bully who picks on innocent children, just like he picks on other people who find it hard to defend themselves. Whether he meant autism or ADHD, is beside the point. The man isn't fit to lick my boots clean after I've danced in my horse stable. The fact that he has a national bully pulpit and a band of rabid followers is a statement about how low manhood has fallen in our culture. If the companies that employ him think it's okay to bully millions of defenseless kids, then they are scum. If he were on my dime, I'd have canned him long ago. Ony a coward picks on defenseless kids. He's a weak, cowardly, bully, nothing more.
Posted by: Bart | July 24, 2008 at 03:49 PM
Big deal.. You guys are soo bent out of shape.. Get over it. Savage was talking about all the fraud that takes place in medical field.. People misdiagnosing certain illnesses. Thats all.
Media Matter and the rest of the liberal media are trying to blow this up and bring Savage down.. They would love to bring in the so-called Fairness doctrine so that they could crush any opposing view and have the media to them selfs. They call that "Progressive"
8 million people listen to Michael Savage. He's doing quit fine, while all the left wing rags are losing money and going out of business. Ha.. I love it!!
Posted by: Orkie | July 25, 2008 at 07:50 AM
I do volunteer work with Autistic kids. Unfortunately the kids I work with are often the victims of a parent that thought the child was misbehaving. The brutality that ignorant people visit on their helpless children is sickening. We already have ignorant parents that think the kid will straighten out if you just beat them enough. And they end up in facilities where we have to take care of their damaged minds and injured bodies for the rest of their life.
We do not need fools like this guy to condone that type of behavior.
Posted by: ajosnn | July 25, 2008 at 11:47 AM