LIBYA: Kadafi said Iran will face "military humiliation"

From the man who gave up his own nuclear ambitions to the West came a rebuke of Iran for refusing to bow to  international pressure.

Libyan leader Col. Moammar Kadafi  described as “arrogance” Iran’s turning a deaf ear to a pack of incentives offered by the West in exchange for shutting down critical parts of its nuclear program.

Kadafi went on to warn the Islamic Republic that it may face the same military humiliation as Iraq.

He said during a visit to neighboring Tunisia on Tuesday:

What Iran is doing stems simply from arrogance. ... In the event of a decision against Iran, this country will suffer the same outcome as Iraq. ... Iran is not any stronger than Iraq and won't have the means to resist (a military attack) on its own. ... The challenges are greater and exceed Iran's ability to reply.

Iran delivered a letter to world powers on Tuesday without giving a definitive answer to a demand it halt or at least stop expanding its production of enriched uranium or else face the possibility of more international sanctions.

Tehran maintains that it wants nuclear technology to generate electricity; the U.S. and other Western powers fear its using it's refining its uranium enrichment capabilities in hopes of being able to develop an atomic bomb.

Kadafi, who has ruled his oil-rich North African state since a 1969 military coup, was granted an end to its isolation and a bunch of lucrative business deals after agreeing to give up on his nuclear and chemical weapons programs in 2003.

— Raed Rafei in Beirut

Photo: Libyan leader Col. Moammar Kadafi arrives for a meeting with Tunisian intellectuals in la Marsa near Tunis, Tunisia, on Aug. 4. Credit: European Pressphoto Agency.

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[Hollywood]

usa army is a myth their greencard mexicans troops and 50 years old cowards in the usa military couldnt even handle a weak vulnerable country like iraq the 8 year war with iran and the first gulf war when more then 30 countires ganged up on iraq destroyed it iraq had nothing left when usa attcked and usa coulndt even handle a small group of fighters armed with 1950 era small weapons only thing usa troops did was rape 14 years old girls and set her and her family on fire and turture and murder a million people when was the last time usa won a war against a strong nation they lost wars for korea,vietnam,cuba,panama.somila and now iraq and afghnistan is usa is safe in iraq now is because usa got help from iran and usa paid the iraqi fighter so they wont attack americans usa is bankrupt and printing and begging for money from china that holds most of usa debt usa needs to focus on its own country with 1 in 31 americans in the prison system and violence and rapes in schools and churches and with single families on the rise usa in a huge moral decline the rate of aids and hiv in the capital of usa DC is a sever problem that is in par with african countries like uganda and africa. the whole world knowes the truth about usa no one is buying the bullshit and hollywood sales all that stealth planes and missile sheilds are worthless propaganda next time you want to see usa military in action is watch saving private ryan but in real like usa cant even saves its own troops damaged with post war mental illness due to shell shock

[Arya]

Lebanese Court Seeks Gaddafi's Arrest

Lebanese prosecutor-general accused Muammar Gaddafi and eleven other Libyan officials of kidnapping Imam Moussa Sadr and his two companions and referred the case to the Lebanon Judiciary to issue arrest warrant for them, judicial sources said.

According to Al-Hayat newspaper, having investigated thoroughly the disappearance case of Imam Moussa Sadr and his two companions, Sheikh Mohammed Yacoub and Abbas Badr al-Din in 1978, Said Mirza referred the case to investigating Judge Sami al-Hajj who has been requested to issue arrest warrant for those who were involved in the case.

Al-Hajj, who is in charge of investigating the 1978 disappearance of Sadr, has issued a subpoena to Libyan leader and accused him of committing abduction, detention and forging official documents.

Gaddafi was called on to appear before the court for questioning in the crimes attributed to him.

Moreover, eleven arrest warrants have been issued for other senior Libyan officials who are suspected of involvement in the abduction.

This is while six more arrest warrant had been issued in absentia for six Libyans, including ex-cabinet ministers, ambassadors and army officers.

The six Libyans were identified as al-Mirghany Massoud al-Toumy, Ahmad Mohammed al-Hattab, al-Hady Ibrahim Moustafa al-Saadawi, Abdul Rahman Mohammed Ghawila, Mohammed Khaleefa Hahyoun and Issa Massoud Abdullah al-Mansouri.

In addition to the all information declared by various personalities and intelligent services, Gaddafi and his son Seif al-Islam have admitted in the year 2002 that Imam Moussa Sadr had been kidnapped in Libya and the verdicts issued by the Italian and Lebanese courts indicated the testimony of the Libyan nationals had been untrue.

The Sadr family was originally from Lebanon, and in 1960 Moussa Sadr accepted an invitation to become the leading Shia figure in the city of Tyre, southern Lebanon.

In 1969 he was appointed as the first head of the Supreme Islamic Shia Council (SISC), an entity meant to give the Shias more say in the government.

In 1974 he founded the Movement of the Disinherited to press for better economic and social conditions for the Shias.

He established a number of schools and medical clinics throughout southern Lebanon, many of which are still in operation today.
http://www.alalam.ir/english/en-NewsPage.asp?newsid=032030120080808191821

[Nader]

Why do western media pay so much attention to what Qadafi says? Comparing Iran with Iraq during Saddam's rule is BS and a BIG mistake. Iran might not have a perfect government, however Iran is the only country in that region that does have elections.

And by the way for those who try dividing Iran by saying Persian Iran, let me teach you about the demographics. Iran is made up of Persian, Azary, Kurd, Balouch, Turkaman, Arab.... and by the way these people have lived side by sisde for centuries... We are a nation not tribes.... the Country is called IRAN not Persia, Persian Iran, or I.R.

Attacking Iran, is not going to be only against the regime of I.R. of Iran, but also the IRANIAN NATION, and it is the second force that should scare any thought of an attack by the so called International Community of Six (6) countries out of some 200 countries.

Reading through some of the comments, I got the same reflection surfacing the Western Media, which consider the International Community as the 5+1 (US,UK,France, China, Russia and Germany). I believe it was a week ago that 150 Members of NAM supported Iran Peaceful nuclear program. Did you know 150 is GREATER then 6?

And another point to make about the countries of the region or best called the proxy regimes of USA: Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Jordan, etc all have monarchies ruling over them with human right abuses and no social rights for their minorities... guess what?? they are loosing their popularity between the people of the region, and those monarchies including QADAFI are worried about their future!

The people of Middle East would hold the silence of their Governments accountable if Iran is to be attacked!

[abudaber]

Iran will be a small breakfast for the United States, this arrogant Iranian president who looks like a mountain goat is as dumb as his stinking hairy ass. History repeats itself - Hitler went into hiding in a bunker when US got to him - Manual Noriega went into hiding in a Church when US got to him - Saddam went into hiding in a hole in northern Iraq when US got to him, so what happened to these three arrogant presidents - 1) Hitler committed suicide, 2) Noriega is in an underground jail in Florida serving life term prison sentence, 3) Saddam was hanged.
So I wonder where this arrogant Iranian goat will hide when US knocks on his door, my guess is inside the toilet.

[Arya]

Mr. Gaddafi who has had a very long love-hate relationship with the CIA and MI6 is simply angry that Iran is not helping him to close the investigation of the kidnapping, torture and murder of Imam Musa Sadr by Libya on the direct order of Mr. Gaddafi in August 1978.

[Maximilian Cole]

Whilst I understand the pride and the right for Iran to develop its own sources of alternative energy, I do agree with Qaddafi that they are being a little arrogant.

The US is no doubt, bullying them in to submission. The Americans idea of diplomacy is the talk of threat! It is unfair to be bullied by an unwise US administration whose foreign policies leave much to be desired and whose policies can seem to do NO right in the Middle East (or anywhere else for that matter). They were wrong about the Taleban and about Iraq who they supported in the 80s against Iran!

It would be wiser for Iran to focus on strengthening its relations globally and regionally to grow trade links and their GDP to ensure the well being of their peoples through stability. Libya is a good example of this outlook.

Iran, cannot afford to let its pride get in the way of stability. In the mid to long term this will cost the people of Iran dearly.

[Mohamed Ali Ender]

We need Educated people to comment about politics as i see that there are no educated people commenting on what should be on the spot light, let me explain what Libyan leader Col. Moammar Qaddafi is saying, pleas don't forget this is only for the smart asses that do not think before they comment, First on the military side of view Col. Qaddafi says if Iran thinks it could play ball with supper powers like, "The United States Of America, Great Brittan, France, and the rest of the European countries and let's not forget there allies Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Jordan, Libya, Egypt, ext.ext.ext.... Iran would be crushed in a blink of an eye that's on the military side. Also keep in mind as we talk, eat, drink and shit are asses to sleep, there are think tanks out there already hitting Iran Economically from all sides possible, war with Iran is already in play. And the Iranians know this or they should know this by now. Qaddafi went on to warn the Islamic Republic that it may face the same military humiliation as Iraq, He is not saying this from out of thin air, He is 100% right about this, there is another point Col. Qaddafi mentions and that is “arrogance” Iran’s turning a deaf ear to a pack of incentives offered by the West in exchange for shutting down critical parts of its nuclear program. "The West is saying shutting down critical parts" And not the entire nuclear program itself. One other thing to mention is that Libyan leader Col. Moammar Qaddafi is extremely smart, He gave up his nuclear program because he knows war is not the answer to our problems and that a NUCLEAR BOMB would not Solve nothing at all, I praise The Libyan leader for making the right move at the right time, So if Iran chooses war with the world Let it be, because the world will not back down it will only mack things look like another IRAQ or maybe worse world war II. It will just be a world war III.

[Amir]

1.Saddam was a minority ruling a Majority

2.Saddam had to fight 3 wars in 23 years

3.After the war with Iran and the first war with the U.S. Saddam was left with no Air Force and No Navy

4. U.S. had a no fly zone over Iraq since 1991 and controlled Iraqi Air Space since 1991

5.Due to sanctions Saddam was not allowed to build Missiles that had a range of over 300km

6.Saddam hid Iraq's money inside the walls of his mansions instead of spending it on the country and Iraq had a very small budget

vs. Iran

1. Iran's 08 budget is $300 Billion witch is more than Saudi Arabia & Israel combined & Iran's GDP(PPP) is $850 Billion ranked 15th in the world by the CIA
2. Iran's Total Troops is 10Million 1st in the world and has the largest Active Troops in the M.E., Saddam didn't even have 10 Million supporters
3.Iran is about the size of U.K., France, Germany & Spain combined (Iraq was smaller than Spain)
4.Iran has one of the Largest Missiles Forces in the world
5.In Air to Air combat Iran's Air Force has the best record in the M.E. next to Israel
6.Iran has the largest force of Helicopters, Infantry Support weapons, Rocket Artillery, SAM, Missiles Boats, Anti-Ship Missiles, Ballistic Missiles & Submarines in the M.E.
7. Iran builds most of Its own weapons so we won't run out of weapons & parts like we did in the Iran-Iraq war (Saddam's military was fully dependent on others)

[JoanJett]

Iran/Iraq = oil = libs cause wars

former '60s radical leftist David Horowitz revealing:

"For more than 30 years, the American left – the Democratic Party, the environmental zealots, and their media fellow travelers – have been at war with energy producers in America. They have taken for granted the freedom that energy provides, and they have waged a war on those who make it possible.

"The left has agitated and the Democrats have regulated and with the aid of the media they have spread environmental panic – and won. They have ensured that for 20 years no large petroleum refineries have been built in America. They have launched alarmist attacks on the nuclear power industry and virtually throttled it at birth. They have encouraged unwarranted fears about magnetic fields and made construction of new power lines almost impossible. They have inspired junk-science hysterics and limited the building of pipelines that deliver natural gas. In the name of a slip of arctic wasteland the size of the Dallas airport (in a state that is twice the size of Texas) they have blocked the development of Alaskan oil, which would provide consumers with the equivalent of 20 years of imports from Saudi Arabia. For 30 years, the Democrats and the American left have choked off America’s energy, and with it a significant slice of Americans’ freedom."

[Colonel Ahmad Hamdan Al-Jaaber Al-Thani Al-Kaliforniayee]

Qadafi changed his country's calender 15 times. He says a lot of things. Qadafi is saying this because of his Arab pride, obviously he doesn't like to see Persian Iran become a nuclear power while he gave up his own nuclear program in exchange for pretty much nothing, simply put, he is pissed.